Shadower best attacks

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    Hello everyone.
    So I'm playing rn a shadower and I got to lv 134 and it's 1 level before I can start bossing and it got me wondering, what is the best attacks combo for me to boos right now?
    As the forum guide I maxed BStep and SS (shadow shifter) is the skill I raise right now.
    I got 1 at assassinate and I wondered if ass+BStep is still better from BStep+BOT if ass is lv1?
    And all of that with ME drops and booming of curse.
    So, what do you think?
     
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    heyo!

    optimal DPS and attacking methods as a shadower should be:

    dark sight > boomerang step > assassinate = 1v1 situations (pap, krex, zak body, anego, etc)

    boomerang step > band of thieves = AoE situations when you're constantly hitting more than 2 targets (zak arms, HT, grinding, etc)

    keep in mind lv. 1 assassinate is overall better than lv. 30 savage blow, so no real point doing boomerang step > savage blow.

    and of course you can spice things up and do both speed bombing while attacking and just white everything. that's the wondrous world of shadowers!
     
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    I agree that lv1 assassinate is better then savage blow but I use boomerang step with band of thifes so the step cycle is faster then savage blow.
    And when I kill booses the dmg looks kinda the same so I'm not sure about it
     
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    kinda the same to what?
     
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    The boomerang+ band of thifes looks like the same dps as assassinate+ boomerang.
     
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    but it isn't
     
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    Ok thx
     
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    Interestingly enough, when shadowers approach end game (around 8.7k range clean), boomerang step + assassinate will do more damage than boomerang step + band of thieves on 2 targets (meaning boomerang step + band of thieves is only optimal when hitting at least 3 targets now). Me and some shadower friends did some math and tested this out
     
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    Range shouldn’t matter here I thought - the dps should be something like avg range * skill total dmg % / skill total cast time, and skill % / cast time is fixed regardless of your range (unless you’re hitting damage cap)
     
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    Ah you’re absolutely right. Well in either case, assassinate boomerang step was out damaging boomerang step bot at 2 targets when we tested it
     
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    I wanted to revisit this to add math for proof.

    Using real numbers: let's say our range is 100-100 (flat). Max boomerang step is 600% damage and max assassinate is 950% damage. Band of Thieves is 250% damage
    Meaning, using boomerang step you will do 600 damage per line (so 1200 total) and assassinate you are doing 950 damage per line (so total 2850 for 3 lines), and band of thieves is 250 damage.

    In 10 seconds:
    Using boomerang + bot = 9 casts + 1 more boomerang step
    Using ds + boom step + assassinate = 5 casts + 1 more boomerang step

    So for 100 range flat in 10 seconds (on single target):
    bstep+ bot = 9(1200 + 250) + 1200 = 14250
    ds + bstep + assassinate = 5(1200 + 2850) + 1200 = 21450

    for 100 range flat in 10 seconds (on 2 targets):
    bstep+ bot = (9(1200 + 250) + 1200) * 2 = 28500
    ds + bstep + assassinate (since bstep hits 2 targets here as well) = (6 * 1200 * 2 [boomerang step casts times 2 for 2 targetss]) + (2850*5 [5 casts of assassinate]) = 28650

    So the difference at 2 targets is minimal, but it definitely takes at least 3 targets before bstep + bot becomes the optimal combination to use.
     
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    Adding a clarification since everyone is mentioning the macro as DS>BStep>Ass.

    The skill order that you want is dependent on your ping to the server. For this case, Normal ping is anywhere below like 150ms, HIGH ping is anything above 300-400ms.

    Normal ping: DS>Ass>Bstep
    HIGH ping: DS>Bstep>Ass

    The reason for this is that Ass depends on the server registering that DS has been cast. Those with normal ping will register DS quicker, and can cast Ass immediately after. Those with HIGH ping take longer to ping the server and thus longer for the game to notice you have used DS. The solution is then to use BStep 2nd in the macro to account for the delay in skill processing.

    Check your ping to the server by opening the cmd prompt and typing “ping royals.ms”
     
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