add a buff potion that provides temporary HB

A one-of-a-kind untradeable item that can only be obtained once per day week, and has the same effect as maxed HB. Obtained from a repeatable quest, and lasts long enough to complete most single boss runs. Since it is an item buff and not a skill buff, it cannot be dispelled.

Does not devalue HP washing or HB completely since it can only be used for one boss run; you would not be able to do both toad and shao with it in the same day, but you can at least participate in one if you wanted.

Tentatively named "Hyper Tonic".

 

I'm not a fan of this idea personally. It feels like it would make taking a DK to a boss run more rare than it already is. It seems as though many unique ways to gain HP aside from HP washing have been added recently, most notably the repeatable HP quest that was implemented a few days ago. For these reasons, I highly disagree with the idea of implementing something like this.

 

Like I said, this can be used for one boss run per day. I'm down to reduce it to only being obtainable every two days, or three, or even once per week. It doesn't devalue washing entirely because washed characters can participate in those fights as much as they want. But this item at least allows unwashed characters to participate once in a while.

The current HP quest will take so long to bring an unwashed character to bossing HP that the player might lose interest before then, so I thought it might be good to at least let them experience the content first before they go through the extremely time-consuming process of building up their HP.

 

We just got an update buffing hp equips, medals and free hp every day, why does it make you want even more? a bit out of the subject and not towards you, I have to mention that I haven't seen anyone just say thank you with zero complains about the recent changes, again not pointing a finger at you, just saying in general, the point is that yes hp washing is hard, and the quest is even harder which is good, otherwise it would replace hp washing and hurt everyone who washed the regular way.
now to the subject, what you are suggesting will not only hurt dark knights, it hurts the whole economy of the server, casual players do not care about daily bossing, if they will have an option to boss once a week with 30k hp they will take it and log in once a week because they are casual, but having 30k hp should not be rewarded to any casual player because it takes months if not years to achieve, whether if its a buff or not.

 

I think this is not a good idea for mapleroyals.We are a RPG game and lots players in game too.We can try find a dk or hb mule when need hb buff.

JOKE: Why not we make a potion , only 1 run per day. -- 1hit kill boss.

 

The update made me think about whether the new solutions might not be as effective as we think they are. It might take several months for an unwashed ranged character to reach enough HP for Horntail by doing the HP quest; clearly this isn't ideal. I was thinking about what an actual solution might look like; this isn't a matter of trying to be greedy. (My character is washed.)

I don't know why you think allowing unwashed characters to participate in all boss fights would hurt the economy of the server. Disregarding that, the reason why DK isn't popular isn't entirely because so many people wash; it's because the DK playstyle (camping low HP just to deal about the same DPS as everyone else) doesn't appeal to everyone. Which is understandable. And among other things, many people wash because they don't want to rely on someone else for HB, especially against a boss that can dispel.

With the HB potion, an unwashed character won't have as many problems being accepted into a party because the organizer knows they won't die to a random dispel, whereas this disadvantage remains if they need to rely on someone else's HB skill. Again, it's the main reason why people wash: being forced to use someone else's HB sucks.

When did I say 30k HP? This is the same as the HB skill. A ranged character with zero washing won't be surviving toad with HB alone, but they should be able to survive Horntail. Meanwhile, a washed character can do all the bosses 7 days a week. This is a significant advantage and it isn't devalued by this proposal as much as you say it is.

I think allowing unwashed characters to more freely participate in party-based content is healthier for the community than forcing them to create an HB mule. Especially when the HB mule is a different account controlled by the same player (as most mules are).

Nice joke.

 

Matt made post a long time ago about looking into a potion that would provide the Hyper Body effect. It never came into fruition. It can be assumed he and the other devs/staff thought such a potion removed the uniqueness of Dragon Knights in the long run. Same reason for why we don't have a 'Sharp Eyes' potion.

 

the new changes are an effective solution, effective to hp washing as whole? no, effective for people that can not wash anymore? yes, also effective for people who likes to travel and grind, effective for players that needed just a bit more hp and did not want to spend money, but to be a SOLUTION for hp washing as a whole is not what it was intended for, at least I hope, so it not being an ideal way to gain hp is a good sign that staff did a good job of keeping value of money spent in hp washing.

I do completely agree that everyone should have the chance to experience the game to its full potential but you are missing my point, let me give a simple example, let's say we are playing a simple mobile game with stages, I play the game for 2 years now and I'm at stage 1300 you just started 2 months ago and you are at stage 500, what you are essentially asking for is a free temporary ticket to experience my stage, well what does that do? it devalues all the time I spent to go through all those stages, all this time in the maple world transitions into progress, and that progress is used to wash, if you devalue the time spent into hp washing you devalue the mesos players spent too and that's how you cause the economy to lose balance, it's like taking a house and saying poof that place that you live in doesn't worth as much anymore its went down by 50%, there is a machine that builds houses in 1 month now, it's so easy to build houses now, it's so cheap and doesn't require time, it exactly applies to royals, if you give people free hp buffs whether if they are permanent or not it affects everyone with no exceptions, the only other way to make everyone enjoy the game fully is to have made the server without hp washing and with lowered bosses damage, but we are passed that, so, unfortunately, achieving high hp is hard and I personally hope it will stay that way in order to respect and give value to the one's who spent their time on it.
as for drks, my main attacker character is actually a drk at the moment, and I have to agree the more I play it the more I understand how it's true that drks are just not appealing enough, my point was that drks right now are in my opinion in a bad enough place, doing what you said is just more salt on the wound, I won't go into too many details but in general, I'd say that focusing on the game more then everyone else is not being rewarded enough.

well, I was just trying to emphasize myself so I used 30k as an example but regardless of how much it is, it still devalues the hard work of others, and if you still think it doesnt after reading my post then we see things entirely different which is fine.

 

What if the item were tradeable, but the quest to obtain it could only be completed by DrK?

 

It can be assumed he and the other devs/staff thought such a potion removed the uniqueness of Dragon Knights in the long run.

 

Personally, I support the idea, but how long is the duration of the potion to be appropriate?

The standard duration to "last long enough" may differ from boss to boss.

Even in the same boss, the duration could go up and down depends on the party (range, anyone DC or died, etc.).

 

So sick of casuals thinking that they should be able to access all of the content within a matter of months and that they shouldn’t have to rely on support classes for certain bosses. If you want to be able to survive without a DrK, earn it by washing to that level instead of asking to be spoon fed.

 

See, the issue is that MapleRoyals advertises itself as an "HP Washing Optional" server. So players who found the server on gtop100 might consider it false advertising when they find out that a huge portion of endgame content is completely inaccessible to those who didn't wash. HP washing on Royals is no more optional than it was in the original version of the game.

 

Can you please break down the "huge portion" of endgame content that is completely inaccessible to those who didn't HP wash, into a list?

 

Why not just bring a DrK?

 

Buff Drks

 

Here's the thing. Every method of adding extra maxHP devalues DrK, including HP washing and the repeatable HP quest. The proposed method actually devalues DrK the least because HB would still be necessary 6 out of 7 days of the week. Whereas the other methods would eventually bring characters to the point that they would never require HB, ever.

 

Yeah but you arent advocating for the removal of HP washing, so now matter how subjectively small you think it devalues hb, it still does.

So again, why not just bring hb.

 

I've come up with this plan in the past, but after some thought, I'm not a fan of this idea.

This is true.
So why devalue even more?
This would kill drks completely.