There are probably people that want to get to 30k hp. I don't care about that. I just want to reach a good enough hp so I can enjoy all the content in the game without having to spend years on one character alone. I never really understood why warriors, who already have a much easier time getting high HP, gets 1k from the other HP quest, while classes that actually needs help washing, only gets 500. Search for the Elixir of Life is a great addition and it has already helped my bowman a bit, but 150 just feels slightly late to me. I understand why you don't want people to get high hp too easily, but lowering this quest requirement so people can enjoy all the content just a bit sooner would be nice. PS: Leave it til they reach 30k, if people actually wish to spend that long on this
Leave it til they reach 30k. I mean if someone is super dedicated and wants to work on it for years, why not let them
What's your class and level, and what would you consider good enough HP for you? I've recently reached level 151 on my Night Lord with barely any HP washing, and lots of natural MP still to wash. I have done the new HP quest a few times, but haven't done the old HP quest, don't have a good HP medal yet, and also haven't looked into Pet HP stuff. I've been able to kill Pap, Zak, Pianus, Krexel and Female Boss (just don't get slapped, of course), and I'm also very close to being able to do Shao with HB. I still don't feel like I've really missed out on any content that I was supposed to be doing earlier than my current level. So to me, the level 150 requirement seems pretty suitable. If I wanted to, I could gain another 3k+ from getting a HP medal, making use of the pet HP scrolls, and finishing off some HP washing, and doing the old HP quest. This would get me enough HP to do HT without HB.
I just explained why we didn't want a power creep. We are curbing that but maybe down the road (a year or more) we could look into revising it but for now, it just came out and we would rather not look into changing things around this early on.
Marksman, level 152. Good enough HP for me would be to get average HP to survive most content in the game I had even lower HP than you before washing my bowman. At level ~150, she could barely survive anything at all other than Zak and Krexel, since even mid-content bosses like CWKPQ, Pianus, even Papulatus, deal ~5-6k damage. A lot of area bosses level 100+ also deals that damage or more. Most high level mobs, 1 hit and that's it. A second hit without healing and she dead. Even after sacrificing a lot of dex to instead scroll my equipments with HP scrolls, washing and doing the new HP quest a few times, she still can't survive: Theme park, Shaolin, Neo tokyo, Musha, Bigfoot, and possibly more stuff im forgetting right now. Is it really reasonable to die by 1 hit from bosses that are like 10-30 levels below you, when you are level 150+? I know HB is a thing, but having to always be dependant on a Dark knight friend or alternatively, a HB mule, isn't that great . Sometimes, a Dark knight isn't even available. For end game bosses, I absolutely get why HB should be required, then. But before washing and getting HP gear, she literally like I said, couldn't even survive simple area bosses and only 1 hit from mobs. I always had a mage here which I mained. I have a bucc as well, which naturally gets more HP per level up and more from APR's. Had I known ranged characters are so extremely expensive and so much hard work to get decent HP on, I may never have made a bowman to be honest with you. But, at this point I've grown attached to her and already spent much time on her, so I will keep working to get that HP up further
I don't think it's unreasonable to die from some bosses that are 10-30 levels below you. Those bosses are likely more favourable to other classes, or would require HB like you say. However there are still other bosses that you can still do. I do think if you took some more time to get a HP medal, try the HP pet equips, and HP wash your natural MP? You will then have enough HP to do some of the other bosses you mention. Things like Shao and Toad may not be possible but it really isn't very unrealistic to get a DrK for that since they don't even dispel.
Yeah with a lot of time spent I could have enough. I realize my frustration I feel sometimes with certain things is the game's fault and not yours and I really don't mean to come off as ungrateful. I just had some thoughts/suggestions I wanted to share. I'm very glad you try to improve the not so good things with the oldschool version by adding a new quest, hp pet scrolls and increasing hp on collector medals
i don't think the one who made or about to make 30k HP with wash do so because they need other then self-accomplishments-goals most of unwashed want to be able to do boss fine without touching-tanking( some of the boss are even hard-impossible to do with HB like shao,neotokyo...) timegate for this quest is fairly good for me but the daily task on top of that with 3 rare etc farming on jobs that don't favour mobing is just to much that makes us quit,ignore some of the content for now untill we get enough HP with quest , or just remake new char,do the broken wash and int leech like most in short time then this quest + no need to relay constantly on HB ( which is allready hard thing or almost impossible to find ) @Matt HP#1 quest done +500 hp,HP #2 quest haven't miss day got 1 x20 sofar, bfc+125hp, blackbelt+300, MoN +314, 7th ani ears +45, rudolph face +50, zombie army ring +100HP,minMP reached think the only thing i miss is the legendary medal +800HP medal (got +200HP medal) +150 hp 2carat ring i will get it eventually but am still far from 13k, even with that items + HB am far from BG,neotkoyo,toad... ( let alone how hard is to find HB) oh well i enjoy sair even without that few boss , the constant improvements in maxHP are allways wellcome better then nothing i guess '-' edit: i miss the pet eqps/scrolls aswell but they become untradeable so i need to vote with my corsair for sometime and hope i get lucky also so happy that toto got eqp finally '-'
Auf's magic attack is only about 9.6k damage, cannon is extremely long range so if you stay on the edge of the range in about the middle of the map you have time to avoid the touch if she breaks pin / seds / does the sword attack. And in worst case, you can always just hold down while your party re pins if you were unable to swim up and right. It's like pap body 2 where holding down dodges touch. Corsairs shouldn't be trying to tank touch damage. This is assuming you have a bucc pinning Auf <<, but running with no melee to pin is a bit pepega. I think that the hp quest is explicitly not meant to fill the same niche as washing as the primary method of gaining hp but exists as a back up plan, so I think the low amounts are fair. I also think that people overestimate how much hp is needed for bosses.
before we get to last auf phase there is few stages, the hardest one for me is the one where we start with royal guard and where i only get to "leech"( Spoiler: hide above the box in the "safe zone" on left side and watch under me how is being killed ) because that mini boss jumps to you and deals like 17-18k so hard to avoid ( i think almost impossible to dodge with how late the animation is and with server delays like you still get hit even if you get far from visual animation when it comes towards you) is not about prove that it can or can't be done.going with or without HB , pin or not, i should make this or that class if i don't want wash/leech... the thing is i still believe that this quest alongside other +maxHP options that got add are alternatives to (washing & leeching due to INT) am not asking for 30k overnight just more reasonable alternatives to reach certain HP "standards"
It should be perfectly fine for you to be at the ranged spot where you won't be touched by RG jumps. The energy ball magic attack is slow enough to be dodged (unmount and jump or hide at safe spot) and should be dodged so you don't fall off the ranged attacking spot. I agree that it is difficult, and I still die sometimes when I get careless or rusty, but that's why it is important to bring along resurrections for safety if you know you might die. I think as long as you can survive the energy ball, RG should be safely do-able. Just for reference, I used to do auf frequently with my 11.6k hp Corsair, so please correct me if there is something I got wrong.
My bucc have 20k hp and I'm still very careful at Dunas v1, since even my Bucc can easily die by the reflect. I think regardless of HP, Dunas v1 can be quite annoying. I feel like Dunas v1 reflect is too OP and the spell animation for it is the same as his other spells and activates immediately, even before the actual reflect symbol is shown above his head. Sorta getting off-topic here , but the design for Dunas v1 is "meh", I can definitely agree on that, but is doable if you are careful enough.
This probably came up already, but the quest rewards are NOT random. The aqua one (squid, flyeye, thanatos) and the world tour one (giant gold monk, himes, wooden fish statues) always give 20hp and the rest 10hp. 1st day of the quest is the exception to the rule, on the 1st day you always get 10hp regardless of the quest. It creates a new random order of the quests every 6 days and if you forfeit a quest you lose that one. So in theory, you can only do the 20hp ones if you like and forfeit when you see one of the 10hp ones. You might want to use these images too.
Only 1st day ever. After that the rewards are 100% based on the quests. And yes, I've done this quest every single day since it came out and kept record.