How to Wash from Lvl 1 - 135? (18k HP Goal) NL

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    I'm trying to Shiyui's Calculator but it seems to be showing numerous error messages at the moment.
    Could some one explain how Nightlord can wash to 18k HP by lvl 135?

    Need a step by step guide. Starting from Lvl 1 with 0 int gear.

    Thank you MapleRoyals Community!
     
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    Hi I didn't really understand lvl 31 - 70 on that guide. The calculation part doesn't make sense to me.
     
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    I can help you out, what is your current character ability status, and your int gear?
     
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    Thank you.
    Made a lvl 30 assassin - didn't want to it level any further without clarification on how to achieve 18,750 HP by level 135

    Current AP:

    Base STR 4
    Base DEX 25
    Base INT 137 (+15 Int Gear) = 152 Int Total
    Base Luk 4


    At level 50 - I will have a clean Zakum Helmet and Deputy Star if this matters.
     
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    Hi, I need your character current clean HP and MP amount (take off any gear that adds HP/MP)
     
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    Without Gear:

    Current HP: 1101
    Current MP: 825
     
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    First at all, your int gear is way too little.
    These are the common types of int gear you should try to achieve, don't think of it as an expense but more like borrowing, because you can sell it away after using it.

    Hat - 10 int
    Bathrobe - 15 int
    Wand - 5-7 int
    Shield - 5-7 int
    Earing - 7 int
    Cape - 8-10 int
    Shoe - 1-2 int
    Lv30 / 50 Pendant - 1-2 int / 5 int
    *Glove - 5 int (they are expensive, you can ignore that but it would be nice too)*
    Eye Acc - 5 int (quite expensive too)

    Anyway, based on what you provided me this is, approximately what you need to do to reach 18750 HP at Lv135.

    Lv30-59 = 145 point AP to INT (280 base int total)
    Lv60-99 = 200 point AP to HP
    Lv100-135 = 175 point to MP for MP washing (however, this is just an estimated calculation, the total number need for MP washing can change, depending on the int gear you can obtain in the future, feel free to save all your AP starting from Lv100, when you reach Lv135, please recalculate as the MP washing you need can lower depending on your INT gear+MW20 etc <link: https://royals.ms/forum/threads/hp-washing-calculator.111127/> Thank you @Shiyui))

    At Lv135 prepare a total of 655 (280+200+175) APR just to finish resetting what we did above and start bossing.
    375 APR: -MP +LUK/DEX
    280 APR: -INT +LUK/DEX

    After this, you need in addition approximately 200-250 APRs and do -MP +HP until you have reached 18750 HP at Lv135.
    Now, I don't recommend using APR to do -MP +HP because you only gained an average of 18 HP when doing so, compared to using fresh AP +HP and then using APR -MP +LUK, where you can gain an average of 22 HP.

    Therefore, I recommend to you to set an HP goal of 18750 at Lv200 instead, by doing so, you can save approximately 200-250 APR.
    If you are interested in this, this is your plan.


    Lv30-49 = 95 point AP to INT (230 base int total)
    Lv50-104 = 270 point AP to HP
    Lv105-135 = 150 point to MP for MP washing (however, this is just an estimated calculation, the total number need for MP washing can change, depending on the int gear you can obtain in the future, feel free to save all your AP starting from Lv105, when you reach Lv135, please recalculate as the MP washing you need can lower depending on your INT gear+MW20 etc <link: https://royals.ms/forum/threads/hp-washing-calculator.111127/> Thank you @Shiyui)

    At Lv135 prepare total of 650 (230+270+150) APR just to finish resetting what we did above.
    420 APR: -MP +LUK/DEX
    230 APR: -INT +LUK/DEX

    You will have around 11660 HP at Lv135, which is more than enough for any bossing.

    And then, at each Lvl up, prepare 5 APR, use all 5 fresh AP to +HP, and then use the 5 APR to -MP +LUK.
    You will run out of excess MP around Lv175 (you should have around 18000 HP around this level) at this point, there is no need to prepare APR anymore, just add all 5 fresh AP into LUK, and you should be able to reach 18750 at Lv200 naturally.

    Let me know if you have any other questions. Good luck!
     
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    Thank you, I'll take your recommendation of lvl 200 with 18,750 HP
    I have enough APRs to start this today. Otherwise I'll be voting a long more time LOL.

    Your guide was very clear and this is exactly what I was looking for!

    Kindest Regards!
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    Hi everytime I job advanced, there was also 5 AP point given to me. Are we missing 20 extra APR's from this calculation? (since total 4 job advancements)

    Thank you
     
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    If I am not mistaken, only 4th job I think gives you 5 AP.

    Just remember you need 230 base int.
    And approximately 150 point for MP washing (the numbers can change depending on your int gear/MW etc, save you AP starting from 105 and recalculate at Lv135)
    And the rest can all simply just go to HP and later rewash using APR -MP +LUK/DEX.

    Good luck!
     
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    Hi check out my current stats. I got to lvl 121 pretty quick from leeching long hours.

    Level 121

    Base STR: 4
    Base Dex: 25
    Base INT: 230 (+61 int gear) = 291
    Base LUK: 4

    Current Base HP: 10,856
    Current Base MP: 7997



    With HP gear - zombie ring and master adventurer medal
    Total HP: 11,156
    Total MP: 8297

    So i've been following your guide and been adding points into MP since 105.

    Whats the recalculation to stop adding points into MP?
    I've figured adding MP points all the way to 135 won't hurt so I can keep adding AP into HP after lvl 175 for maximum HP at lvl 200.

    Correct me if I'm wrong and if I'm wasting APRs.

    But I kind of wanted to hit a nice round 20k HP at lvl 200.

    Thank you!
     
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    Do you currently have any unassigned AP unused?
     
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    No, I've been adding fresh AP into MP since 105

    I'm lvl 121 now
     
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    Hey,
    [THE CALCULATIONS ARE CORRECT, BUT DONT USE THIS IF YOU HAVE AP
    ASSIGNED INTO HP/MP]

    you can easily calculate the amount of extra MP you need to be able to wash to 18k, I will show you how to do the calculations.

    You currently have 10,856 HP, gaining natural HP from leveling to 135 (20 hp pr lvl). You will have 11,136 HP. (Round to 11k).
    If you want 18k by lvl 135, that means you need another 18k-11k = 7k HP.
    We know that washing gives on average 18 HP for each 12 MP. Which means you have to multiply 7k hp by 12/18.
    7*(12/18) = 4.67k.

    This means you need 4.67k extra MP.
    Calculating the minimum MP for a thief at lvl 121 you get 14*121 + 148 = 1842MP.
    You have 7997 MP.
    7997-1842 = 6155. You have 6155 extra MP.

    With your 6155 extra MP you will be able to wash:
    6155*(18/12) = 9232 HP
    You can already now wash to 20k if you want to.

    Conclusion
    You already have enough MP to wash to 18k and dont have to add more points into MP.

    Advice
    To save AP-resets you should HP wash with fresh AP, with fresh AP you gain 22 HP instead of 18.
    Keep your int and MP wash a bit more, it never hurts to have more MP, having extra MP doesnt mean that you have to wash it into HP.

    If you wish to hit a nice round 20k HP at 200 hmu when you're lvl 190 and we can calculate a plan for this.
     
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    Thank you! I forgot add the natural 20 HP in my calculation! Looks like I'll have well over 20k+ by lvl 200.
     
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    Please don't listen to this as this calculation is not done correctly enough.

    You forgot to take into consideration the "unassigned" AP, he had added into HP and did not wash back using APR -MP +LUK/DEX.

    He is only Level 121 with only the following AP.

    Base STR: 4
    Base Dex: 25
    Base INT: 230
    Base LUK: 4

    Thus, he doesn't actually have enough MP yet.

    Regards

     
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    Oh! You have AP assigned to HP, my bad.
    I didnt consider that, that makes it a bit more difficult.
    If you are lvl 121 you should have 610 AP total. 5*121 + 5 from 4th job adv. (Cant remember if you get from 2nd and/or 3rd).
    I see that you have assigned 21 dex and 224 INT. which means you have 605-224-21= 360 AP into HP/MP
    If you follow one of the suggestions above, you put 200 AP into HP, which will amount to 200*22 = 4.4k HP
    And you spent 160 AP on MP that would be, 160*12= 1920 MP you have to subtract.

    That means that your actual HP at 135 would be 11-4.4 = 6.6k
    And your actual extra MP right now is 6155-1920 MP = 4235MP.
    This means that you need another 11.4k HP for your goal,
    11.4*(12/18) = 7.6.
    You need 7.6k extra MP.
    Since you have 4235 extra MP already, you will need 7600-4235=3365 more MP.
    With 230 INT, you will therefore have to wash 3365/23 =147 more times. Which amounts to 15 lvls, which leaves you at lvl 136.
    I have done some rounding off, so it actually fits pretty good to 18k at 135.

    I sincerely hope you didn't follow my previous advice, I didn't take into consideration that you left your AP in HP/MP, as I myself always take them out immediately.
    Thanks to @MrZYJ for pointing it out.
    The calculation here should be the correct one.
     
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    Lv200 - 121 * 5 AP = 395
    Lv200 Total AP 1030 - 395 AP = 635 (you are supposed to have total of 635 AP)

    Base STR: 4
    Base Dex: 25
    Base INT: 230
    Base LUK: 4

    You are missing 375 AP to wash back, thus we need to, 375 * 12MP = 4500 MP
    Current Base MP 7997 - 4500 MP = 3497 MP is the correct MP you should have by 121 and take into calculation.

    I plugged into the calculator, the Total HP: 11,156 you have since these likely will be items you will still equip even during your end game stage, plus more such as MON etc etc.
    You can also do the HP quest, which gives you an additional 500 HP if you haven't done so.

    But looks like, you will be having around 19400 HP more or less by Lv200.
    upload_2020-11-16_9-22-52.png

    As you can see below, if you put HP goal 20,000, it will show ERROR.
    upload_2020-11-16_9-23-37.png

    Regards,
     
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    Hi! i was wondering if you could help me with calculations with my sin as well?
     

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