v83

have we ever considered the possibility of no wipe, but advancing to v 75? that's like in between 83 and 62, it would be a compromise for both sides, don't need to wipe, you could slightly adjust a few things if need be such as the gach system, white scrolls.

you could remove any overpowered items or whatever people keep complaining about.

 

There is a reason that there are no v75 servers anymore. It is a terrible version, and the things people are attracted by are added by v83, not v75. Making a v75 would not attract new players, but rather repel them. If we are going to change versions and not be a GMS-like server, v83 is the way to go.

 

I don't know if we'd be able to find a v75 source...and if it would be even remotely stable enough for our use...

I like the idea of a hybrid v62/v83 server...basically any aspect we don't like about v83, switch back to v62. For example use the v62 exp table instead of the v83.

 

Kris just did a double post. Can someone ban him now so we can have a civilized discussion in here? I'm really tired of his spam in this thread.

This right here is really important to me too that actually play the Bishop class because I enjoy it and not just to make a HS mule.

To be honest, I personally do not know what v.83 really is about because I don't know the changes in it from v.62. What I think it is, is more like EMS in it's around 2nd year. I would have to check up on that.

About the nostalgia... As I said to you Matt before, pre-bb before the big changes is ok with me.

True nostalgia for me is, OMG WTF IS THIS NEW PLACE CALLED LUDI THAT LOOKS LIKE A LEGOLAND MASHUP??!!
But that nostalgia isn't maybe the most enjoyable one

/saki
~cry

 

Okay, first of all, it's up to you guys if you want to do v83, and it'd actually require no "wiping" of the source if you guys just update your current source to v83, rather than using an entirely new source. You guys can take a look at Valhalla v83 since you guys are using HurricaneMS (which is based off of Valhalla, if I remember correctly?), and you don't need to wipe.

Though, I'd prefer a wipe since everyone is too overpowered at the moment, but a lot of people would feel discouraged to play since their loss of their godly items. The thing is, I know you guys will say something like "If you are a true royal player, then you'll play no matter what", but the thing is, there is not many people who are like that. Wipe, and you'll lose a lot of the community you have now. The advantage of wiping though, is everyone starts from scratch, and people will have a chance to build themselves up again, and there will be newer people coming in.

All in all, since I'm a retired member of this server, I don't really want to argue against or for this change, but what I played for was the community, and if the community is gone, there is no longer a reason for me to stay.

If you guys want to update to v83 without wiping, I'd be happy to help. Just look me up. I loved this community quite a bit, and I don't want to see a lot of the people go.

and oh. p.s there is a v75 source, you can just use ShootSource/MetroMS. It was decent, but there were a lot of things to fix. You can easily update your current source to v75 too.

 

Well, i know it sounds lame comparing to thoughtful comments of other players, but there are some certain words that has to be said.... first of all you dont owe us not one thing so its really awesome that youre willing to hear what we have to say as a community, its really important to know we count.
but as long as i really get a chance to speak, V.62(Feel the Nostalgia)- well, thats a catch phrase, it certainly got a big part of the players to play this certain server and not another one, so changing it to 83 will really let them down( and im one of them) and now ill speak for myself, it feels like ive been lied to, thinking its a v.62 server thats here to stay and all of a sudden its changing when i put effort in this server.
2nd of all- nothing nostalgic about a wipe, i mean i recall maplestory changing versions along the way, but i cant recall it being wiped everytime a version changed, how is it GMS like?
regardless of the things ive mentioned above, i wouldnt play this server if i knew a month after ill start its gonna wipe and change version, it makes me feel like all my hard work worth nothing, so ill probably quit the server with all of my friends and ill probably quit it not happy....
but still, the most important thing is that we get a chance to speak and im thankful for that, and im wishing the best for this server, i had really good time playing it, when it will change i know for sure 6 players will quit it, but its a great server so whoever likes v.83 and doesnt care about the wipe, i really reccomend to stay here!!

 

will there be arans? cygnus ? if were going to 83, id like the new jobs to be included, and be able to make an ulitmate adventurer

 

I'd say, if you change to v83 WITHOUT wiping our characters/items/whatever then nobody will have any problem with the upgrade, we'd be happier.

ANYWAY, if you wipe our stuff. whether v62 or v83, we will just leave due to the disappointment.

nuff said.

 

Ultimate Adventurer is v.96, not v.83.

 

oh awe ....

 

If there is a wipe, you should omit the vote of players who say they will quit if you wipe. (IE: Kris) Their opinion does not matter for they will not be contributing to the server regardless if you wipe and stick with v62 or wipe and update to v83.

If you just do a plain wipe and stick with v62, with lower rates. The same things will occur and you will be riddled with the same issues at a later date regardless of the rates you impose. The infamous quest bugs that glitches maps, players getting bored because of the lack of content. The same grinding routes, the same grind that players already did pre-wipe only to do again post-wipe IF they were to stay. You would just end up losing a lot of your player base in hopes of maybe attracting more.

However, if you update to v83, you have quite a few players willing to stay and all for it with you on this, and it would have way more potential in attracting more players post-wipe, because that is your current focus I hope. What is best for the server in the future.

All these players posting that they will quit if you were to wipe as threats have no contribution to the opinion for the best of the server post-wipe, but that is only if a wipe is definitely to occur.

 

I thought Kris already quit. wat.

 

4x exp and v0.83 sounds excellent, that is my personal opinion. But if you wish to keep that lovable sense of nostalgia, you would be wise in disabling certain v83 features, the balance within the game will undoubtedly be upset, with the addition of the Maker skill (I don't like the Maker skill, I very much prefer the item system that Matt implemented), not to mention the Haunted House Chimney (Disable it entirely?). Targa/Scarlion helmets are a bad addition aswell, they completely negate the value of a zakum helmet. Lastly, Vicious Hammers are what I think took the game to a new level with v83, it's around this time I felt Maplestory went in the wrong direction, these kinds of items turned the game into a race to reach the highest dps and damage range, which I dislike. I quit after v83. Miracle Cubes were the last straw for me.

, I feel hatred towards Knights of Cygnus, but Arans are not as bad... (Although I'm sure many would disagree with me and say that Arans will take away the sense of nostalgia.)

A wipe will mean a fresh start, and also means there are alot of possibilities to eliminate any features/aspects of the server that you may have disliked before. It's a chance to set a whole new standard and image for the server, which I think is great!

But while you're at it, why not revamp the forums/website, no huge changes necessarily, but this is the best opportunity, so why not wipe the slate clean?

 

I just saw Ali's post and I kinda like the idea of upgrading to V83 WITH OUT WIPING.

 

Well he sure conveys his opinion like he has not.

 

its almost impossible for coders to make this v.83 without wiping, due nexon has the real program and not some repack, so in order to change version you usually change a repack.... which means a fo-sure wipe.
but anywayz, id say i may stay in the server with alot of people probably even if it will wipe, if well be promised its the last wipe, you know... maplesotry wasnt wiped when fangblade reached lvl 200... no reason whinin about it.... i like v.62 better and thats the reason im here.
one last thought for now... i dont really see the point in wiping... alott of people are playing and this is one of the biggest servers, i dont see a reason to harm the server by doing anything to it :\ please consider leaving it the way it is, after all you are the most successful low-rate private server in version 62... it is a big achievment.

 

It's also worth keeping in mind that many of the long-lived, very popular servers almost never wipe, on the other hand, most of them run on quite a stable source, perhaps unlike v0.62.

 

If this is turning into a 4x server I'll gladly come back and gladly support this server staying alive.

 

Hi. I'm worried that after the wipe and if we do move on to v83 will the server still be able for Mac users? This hasn't been raised and I don't know how big the Mac community is at Royals but from what I know there isn't a working v83 for Mac at the moment. Just want to see some opinions on this..

 

I say clear NO to wiping...

if it is really impossible to avoid a wipe, I don't think I'd want to play anymore...I worked hard enough to just get to my current level (which is not high, I know) and I don't see it becoming boring all too soon...

My oppinion is just as Alicias' ... upgrading to v.83 is alright if it REALLY does fix a LOT, and I'm talking about a lot. not just some minor fixing shizzle.

other than that... people who are bored of the game already, probably are just playing WAY too much, and grind to level 100 in just one or two days...no wonder they get bored. they'd get bored fast enough on a new server with lower rates aswell (as before mentioned by someone else).

but yeah..my Vote: Others

and again: v.83 is okay as long as you don't wipe and it does fix a lot of problems, otherwise NO