Sexism When Enforcing Rules Regarding "Sexist" Comments

You are saying that you will feel violated because you made a comment that might have offended someone? idek anymore.

Maybe fear might not be the right term, but I guess that's at least how I view it. To me, perma-ing someone is like instilling fear, this is also why I assume they heavily enforce on not hacking/rwt-ing/account sharing.

Preach

You are not the only person that said this. I've heard this many times. You still haven't explained why you think it shouldn't be a perm?

 

You can judge me all you want. I'm not a hypocrite, I admit that I'm petty. But hey, if that's 1 less person throwing unnecessary vulgarities/racial/homophobic slurs, I can't be bothered about what you think.

 

You have no place to be offended by a comment that is not directed at you. If said words do not contain hate speech.

If you want an explanation on why I think a permanent ban is not justifiable for something as minor as language, and why I think a policy with 3 strikes is detrimental to the community then watch the 13th or research the effectiveness of Bill Clinton's 3 strike policy and the unintended effects that it had on the African American community as a whole.

 

I agree with you that if it contains no hate speech, there shouldn't be a reason to feel offended by a comment. The "c-word" and "d-word" contains hate speech. So why is it that the party shouldn't feel offended by that comment?

Hate speech
The act of transmitting any sort of content or acting out any scenario which could be perceived as derogatory or otherwise prejudiced towards any group of people based on their race, sex, gender, life choices, or any other division.

 

Explain to me how it contains hate speech lol

 

There is no historical context of the c-word or d-word being used to otherise a group of people, not even close to the level of the n-word(racial) or f-word(homophobic). Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

The act of transmitting any sort of content or acting out any scenario which could be perceived as derogatory or otherwise prejudiced towards any group of people based on their race, sex, gender, life choices, or any other division.

The fact that saying the "c-word" is as good as transmitting it.
saying the "c-word" is derogatory in nature. It is a vulgarity for a reason.
could be perceived as derogatory towards any group of people. If a bystander happens to see the c-word, they are now aware of the derogatory term. hence, we say they have perceived it as a derogatory term
note: it says towards any group of people, NOT USED on any group of people

 

Good thing vulgarity isn't hate speech then. There's a clear distinction between hate speech and simple vulgar words.

Piss, shit, fuck, dick. Not of that is hate speech because none of that contains context. On the other hand, the n-word(racist) and f-word(homophobic) are hate speech.

Can piss, shit, fuck, dick, be used to harrass people? Certainly, and I would support a ban if that happened. But as always, context matters.

 

What group of people? You bolded gender lol

it says group of people based on.. (factors)

???what lol

so dick is hate speech because it is a derogatory term used to refer to people with a penis?

I will ask again why is the staff banning the c-word under hate speech and not harassment.

 

Piss, shit
The act of transmitting any sort of content or acting out any scenario which could be perceived as derogatory or otherwise prejudiced towards any group of people based on their race, sex, gender, life choices, or any other division.

Piss and Shit, might be vulgar slang but, which part of (race, sex, gender, life choices, or any other division.)? Life choices. Not sure if pissing and shitting is a choice since it is pretty much compulsory unless you want to die.

for f-word and d-word, probably?

Now that you mention it, I get where you are coming from when you say context matter.

my interpretation on this is literally anyone

 

My brief takeaway from this thread as a whole is that this

is far more toxic and disruptive to the social aspect of the game than

Literally every single person has a personal blacklist at their disposal, use it. This is ridiculous.

 

this is where your interpretation is wrong. It can’t be hate speech if you are not discriminating based on a set of factors (sex, religion, gender, race). As the rule clearly stipulates. If anything, you camping FM is harassment.

 

We can agree to disagree. People come here to have a fun time, not everyone in a PG13 server appreciates these words.

 

People come to have a fun time, but you are not bringing the fun

 

I have seen my share of sexist/homophobic language in this server, but its better to give the benefit of the doubt and move on imo (i don't believe in perma banning someone over a word). This tos abusing needs to be dealt with somehow though, we are giving these petty trolls too much power + wasting Staffs time. Most of us are adults with real life struggles, we don't need to make this game another stressful space just... relax, mind your own business, let others express themselves, stop looking for reasons to get ''angry'' or ban someone just because they don't fit your views and let Staff work on important things like real harassment, rwt, hackers, server improvements etc.

 

So you are suggesting that if it is not used directly at someone, then it is considered harassment. If directly used at someone, it is considered hate speech?

I will quote it for you, likewise, please explain your assumptions. It will be appreciated.
Objectionable Behavior (Harassment) - The act of engaging in any sort of rude, harassing, vulgar, obscene, hateful, threatening or abusive discourse with another player, or alternatively in a setting in which unintended audiences may be present such as all publically transmitted chat or serverwide messages. This includes persistent badgering, flaming, mass defamation or disruption of another player.
Objectionable Behavior (Disruption) - The act of engaging in any sort of action that is deemed to be excessively disruptive to the individuals around you, including spamming or flooding chat or skills.

 

This is subjective. You and your group of friends might be having fun. Others might not due to your actions.

 

Sorry, but I feel that the point here isn't about my views or your views or anyone's views, instead, it is about what is on the ToS.

 

Smh. No.

It cannot be hate speech unless you are discriminating due to a specific set of factors. for example, the f-word is hate speech towards a people of a certain sexual orientation and the n-word is hate speech towards people of a certain race. the c-word IS NOT.