After 1-2 years I recently came back to Royals and I have a washed BM. He's currently at 12k hp and 2.4k mp at level 135. Previously I decided that 12k was enough, but now I want to get him up to 18k. All my AP has been spend and I also don't have any base INT leftover (moved it all to DEX). If I want to start washing again, do I just use resets on DEX to INT? I also have a few shitty INT equips leftover if those are of any use.
i don't recommend it... 12k is a nice hp already, and you're going to spent so much money doing this, you can lvl up with int gears, get a black belt, collector titles, hp quests, daily hp quest, mon, bfc, shiny nose, event rings... with this you can get more than 2k extra hp, since you already reset your base int and got lv 135, getting 18k with wash is hard now.
If you want 18k by 200 you will need another 6k-1.3k =4.7k HP from washing. 4.7k HP is equivelant to 4.7*k(12/18) =3.13k EXTRA MP. Assuming avg gain of 18 HP per wash. The minimum MP for Bowmen at 135 is 2268 MP, you have just over that, so you would have to obtain 3100 EXTRA MP. I will give you a couple of examples of what you would have to do, all assuming you want 18k by 200. I will assume you manage to get 100 INT equips and use these on every lvl up till 200. This would become 65*10 = 650 extra MP. Great, now you just need another 2500 EXTRA MP. For every MP wash, you gain 1MP/ 10 int. You need 2500 EXTRA MP, which would be the same as washing once with 25000 INT. If you want to make that by 145(10 lvls) you need 25000/60 = 416, round to 420 INT. (I divide by 60, becuase you will have 50 FRESH AP, and 10 times you get MP from leveling. 50+10=60) Cost would be 420*2 + 10*5 = 890 AP resets. If you want to make it by 155(20 lvls) you need half of that, 210 INT. Cost would be 210*2 + 20*5 = 520 AP resets. If you want to make it by 175(40 lvls) you need half of that again, 105, round to 110 INT. Cost would be 110*2 + 40*5 = 400 AP resets. And if you want to make it by 200 you need 64, round to 70INT. Cost would be 70*2 + 65*5 = 465 No matter what, you will have to HP wash 4700/18 = 262 times. So you could add that to the cost of all the abovementioned costs. Now you choose if you think it is worth it. Calculations will probably vary by a little bit. If you use some FRESH AP to wash into HP you will gain slightly more and save some mesos. This will hopefully be a good estimate to help you out
I guess so. But the APRs aren't really a problem, since I have like 5m NX left from voting almost every day since I stopped playing lol. WOW! Thanks for all of the math here! I am thinking of getting ~300 INT, so I'll be done by level 150-155. I have a few questions still! - Is there a difference between base INT and INT from gear? - Is it as simple as taking out points from DEX and putting them into INT? Then leveling up (with equips ofc), gaining more mana and washing the extra mana into hp, then putting the INT back to DEX? Reason I'm asking is because I see people mention fresh AP all the time (something I don't have anymore) and it confuses me. - Are there any bosses doing over ~12k damage with any ability making this even worth in the first place? Again, thanks for the very much in-depth reply!
Hey, I know you have 5m NX, so you have many options. Making a new chracter is something you definietly should consider, getting this to 30k HP you definetly can afford. Getting a new character to 18k HP will probably cost a bit more than making 18k on your current character. But on your current character you would have INT from lvl 135-150, which sucks for your damage and you would have to buy leech. So afterall it might actually be cheaper to make a new character to 18k. This is your decision, but if you think that in 2 years you wish you would've gone for 30k, a new character is definetly the best option. The difference between base INT and INT from gear. Base INT affects: MP from lvl-up MP from fresh AP. INT from gear affects: MP from lvl-up. Spoiler: Example If you lvl from 135 to 136 with 300+100INT. You will gain 30+10=40MP from that lvl up. You now have 5 AP points, if you add AP into MP you will gain your natural MP gain which I believe is 12, and an additional 30 MP from your base INT. So if you wash 5 times each lvl you would gain 30*5 = 150 MP. When people are asking for MW20 from leech, they are only benefitting from the lvl-up MP. If you have 300 +100 base int, and get MW20, you would get 300+130 INT instead, giving your a whopping 3 more MP pr lvl up. Fresh AP is the 5 AP you get after lvl-up. If you use an AP-reset it will not count as fresh AP. If you do lvl 135-155 with washing, you would gain 5*20 = 100 FRESH AP. All these points you would have to put into MP, and reset them back into DEX. You can do this until all the 100 points are back into DEX. Then you are left with your extra MP which you will then use to HP-wash. As for me mentioneing that using fresh AP to HP-wash after lvl-up might change your result. It doesn't matter for archers (my bad). An archer gets 18HP by washing -MP+HP(1APR) and 18 HP by +HP-MP+DEX(1 Fresh ap, then 1 APR). This is different for thieves, so don't worry about this. I don't know much about how much damge the bosses do, but it's usually the very end game bosses that require above 12k. And it's also to be able to tank the touch damage of these bosses. Many bosses, if you play well you would not have to touch, and therefore not need the high HP. Just google the HP requirements and you will find some posts to help you out. Just ask if you need any help with the washing process.
Thanks again for your reply. It's very much appreciated. Regarding the making a new character to 18k; I prolly won't do that even if it's cheaper, because I play this game very casually currently and I'd rather pay a bit more to get this character to 18k then start all over again. I understand that it means I have to buy leech, but honestly I don't mind. I'm curious though as to why you think I should get one to 30k. I understand it makes stuff easier/cheaper pots, but for bossing its not really necessary right? I also looked up some of the bosses damage. Most of them do <12k. Only 1 or 2 attacks can one-shot me, so that's nice. All in all, I will consider my next steps. Thanks once again for your help.
No problem, anytime 30k is by no means neccesary, it is only for the perfectionists. I'm not saying you should go for it, just that you should consider it I just wanted to point out that that your goal some years ago was 12k, and now it changed to 18k. It could change again.
Yeah, my goal did change. Very true. I want to future-proof it, so my BM is capable of doing any boss. Pretty sure 18k (+ HB if needed) will get me there. Maybe 12k is enough for that too, but I'll focus on 18k.
Just want to make sure my math is right, as it's still somewhat confusing. Below I have a more or less random example. Let's say I get APR myself back to 300+60 INT. And this math only includes level 135-155. This would mean I get the following per level-up: - Level-up INT: 30+6 = 36MP - 5x fresh AP: (12+30)*5=210MP Total per level: 246MP In my example I say (12+30)*5 is from 5 fresh AP, but in your example (see below) you don't mentioned the base 12 MP in the calculation part. So I'm not sure whether or not to include it. Anyway, let's continue. 246MP per level-up * 20 levels = 4920MP. 4920MP + 2400MP (What I have now) = 7320MP. Level 155, min MP: 2318. 7320MP - 2318MP = 5002 washable MP. 5002MP/12*18=7503HP from washing (not including base HP per level-up and whatnot). Is my math correctly? (prolly not even close lol, I suck at math)
So there is a reason I didn't include the 12 MP. This is beacuse you lose this when you wash back into DEX. So just ignore that gain. It doesnt count as EXTRA MP, it counts as MP from AP. So you have to take away 12*20*5 = 1200 from your calculation. Which leaves you with 5002-1200=3802 washable MP. 3802* 18/12 = 5.7k HP. So everything seems correct except the 12 MP you shouldn't count in. Also make sure that you actually have 2400 MP naturally, if you have some equips/medals on your actual MP could be a bit lower.
