Let's discuss: do you think this deserves an unban?

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  1. Raony
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    That doesn’t justify calling me a perv to the whole server using your gm without even hearing my side though
     
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    Putting her stuff aside, what would you call your behavior?

    Genuinely curious.
     
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    How many times do I need to repeat to you that I saw what your buddy Tim made for you? I read 20 pages of your little sob story and I don’t feel bad calling a spade a spade.

    Pervert.
     
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    On topic:Based on what i have seen,yes,he deserves a ban.But maybe 100% fairness does not exist in this world,let alone a private mushroom server.

    Off topic:
    I don't know @ioopy beforehand.But i have some bad blood towards you @sparky95 now when i see how you treated him.
    Who entitle you the power to shoot in dark to players(even if they were banned) who were posting their views normally.Is there any rules forbidding players to post their words when they got banned?
    Does the ability of still playing this game make you as a person feel superior to those people who got banned?Does acting like a "honorable man" with some so called "honorable reasons" make you as
    a person feel superior to those people who got banned?
    Let me show you something to prove how honorable you are.Did you remember how you bought the pgc that you are wearing now?When there is a low level guy who was suspect by you for long time
    offering cape which is below market price,what did you do?Alerting GMs inside game or outside game?Nah.you spent your time to get some loan from your friend,and make the good deal lightning quick.
    Where is your honorable reasons then?Where is your pure virgin and strong hate towards potential cheaters then?Don't try to say something like i didn't notice it at that moment blablabla,don't fool around
    people who are reading this.Because you felt I'm a fool and knew nothing when we traded.I can feel that.But on the contrary,I was fooling you whole time Mr. Sparky.
    I am not telling that you did a illegal trade,I am telling you are not as honorable as you want to act.
    Royals Tips:Don't re-qoute your words again,I did read it.And don't teach me how to act like a gentleman or use some kid tricks which you used 20 years ago.I do have bad blood towards you now,that's it.
    If you wanna fight,let's fight like a man.Don't reply to me in this post,i wont want this post go off-topic.Make a brand new post,let's make a real bet.I'm still not banned now.If you have any doubt with my
    legitimate,try to take me down by any means you want!If you did this,i will make an official apology to you.If you can't do it in 1 month(i only actively played 10-ish days,i think time is fair enough),NPC/drop
    everything you have in game,and log bloody off.Dare you?
    I guess you wont dare to do it.So next time when you want to shoot in dark to players,make sure you have already got honorable reasons and vaild evidence.
    Make sure that,many banned players as a person like @Kai and @ioopy have way higher character than you.You'd better live your pixel sparky life, shut the funk up and get fuck out of here.
    Friendly tips:The only way you can do is that report this post and get my word deleted NOW.Actually you can do nothing over to me except that.
    你们丫这帮孙子一点都不仁义
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    No idea where u read where I said Tim's judgement on Raony was fair/unfair. I'm saying that people are bashing Raony without even giving him a chance to explain. You are the one that needs to calm down.
     
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    I may be new to the server overall, but there are some things I need to clear up here, as a person who is uniquely qualified to do so. My degree is in sociology. I'm a member of the American Sociological Association and a published expert in several fields, including Collective Identity Theory.

    The average timespan in which someone reports sexual harassment, given no further instances of harassment (meaning it is not an ongoing phenomenon--and it usually is, but let's ignore that for now), is over 120 days. On average, if an individual in a social group, be it workplace, school, church, study group--whatever--suffers sexual harassment, it is not typically reported for an average of one hundred and twenty days post facto. In this time period an individual is subjected to social scrutiny of every collective of which he, she, or they is a part. This period includes reconciling with each and every collective whom this public proclamation of harassment affects.

    How will this affect other women?
    What does this mean for other lower class citizens?
    What would this do for the other employees?
    Am I causing trouble for others?
    Does the other person deserve this?
    How will this affect the other person's peers?

    The internalized process which an individual undergoes, once again, is at an average of about four months.
    The staff can do what they like with their own server, of course. But if such a rule is enacted that harassment outside of a timespan of 48 hours shall be illegitimate is proposed, ask yourselves: who does this truly benefit? now that you know that this such a rule would claim that nearly 100% of legitimate sexual harassment cases in a group would be null and void?
     
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    Would’ve been able to explain in a ban appeal, but Tim robbed him of his experience.
     
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    you still never answered if you were gonna help her work on her boobs if thats what ur true intentions were to train her. Id like to hear how you could improve that? you make me and other sick.
     
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    I understand this. But the least people could do is allow him to explain himself. Not that hard to do. 2 wrongs doesnt make a right.
     
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    Means a lot less when one wrong isn't even treated as a wrong.
     
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    I will post a screenshot of my act of apologizing, it was in November 11 btw.
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    other than that I think I already explained my side. Thank you.
     
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    Take your time.
     
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    I agree with you but regardless, 2 wrongs still doesnt make a right.
     
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    jesus christ. this is disgusting, especially coming from a staff member
     
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    This is an entirely self-serving apology. This is the rhetoric that you want to look for when analyzing the written text of the accused, class. It's textbook. Let me demonstrate.

    Things said about your status and how you feel:

    1) You're sorry.
    2) You were emotional.
    3) You were hurt.
    4) Something happened to you.
    5) You express the desire to do something.
    6) You need her to know something.
    7) Expression of full stop and noncommitment.

    Things said about her status, how she feels, what concerns you about her, or how remorseful you are that you affected her:

    1)
     
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    As someone who's also heavily in the fitness community, with training licenses and going for that IFBB Pro card, I don't think your answer is satisfactory. I don't care what my relationship is to the person, when it comes time for advice/help I immediately conduct a professional tone. I would lose my licenses if I used language such as "u have big tits" regardless of your claim that you aren't coming onto her. You acknowledge that the language you used was crude, can be misinterpreted, and in many cases would be grounds for harassment. I still maintain my previous position that for whatever wrong-doing Sharu has done should also be logged and reported regardless of time/motive just strictly based off in-game conversation. While it's not up to me, I don't agree with the seeming leniency and you should serve the 7 day as would anyone else.
     
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    @Raony Why would you feel the need to apologize for what you say was just 'friendly banter'?
     
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    I do agree on where you say he doesn't deserve a permanent ban (if this is his first instance of course) and he could have another chance. The whole discussion is rather on why did he get passed without a proper ban appeal route and I also agree with that.

    But some of your words sound pretty strange:

    you are telling people it's NOT OKAY to be upset for words and stuff people say about them, you feel people are being oversensitive for getting upset for what others said. And you are calling people "sensitive little bxtch" just because they felt uncomfortable about what people said about them? ?.?.?
     
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    No no I was apologizing for the discord the friend thing happened way before that
     
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    I've seen too many people get banned for light jokes, harassment or stalking/doxxing...

    How is it possible that a GM bailed out someone for doing all of the above... That seems to be the issue... not the reason of timing of when victim posted report or reason why...
     
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