Let's discuss: do you think this deserves an unban?

'the friend thing' lmao

 

Dude I don't know why you have to be all corporate parrot in this matter. They literally don't pay you dime to do this.

 

You guys keep feeding the drama, give people drama and they'll want more.
Obviously this story goes a few layers deeper and i think at this point their personal relationship are none of our business and shouldn't be so public, it makes the forum look like a joke.
While this whole thing is happening Josh brought TERRIFYING points about the staff, I get so scared as a player seeing the things he said, and u can see how @June 's points are included there, and June is 100% right to be angry, and she should've been listened to.
But look at this:

People crave drama.
I think this should be locked and be discussed in a civil way on the other thread, and ofc changes should be made in the way things are being handled.
I'm just sorry @June died for this, she was the bestest of gms.

 

You told me not to reply here but I don't think there are many options when you decided to go off-topic.

1. I'm wearing a 20 att BFC, not a PGC. This was upgraded from 19 att to 20 att with 12 b topup which was 1b more than the c/o at the time. I'm genuinely curious to find out where you see this below market price deal. If you are talking about a 19 att PGC upgrade from 17 att, it was done with the help of my old ex-GM friend Matty who donated his 17 att cape and 22 bwg as he left the server. This I explicitly mentioned in the selling thread for the said equips.

2. The only time I ever made loans for an upgrade in this game was 4b each from a guildie and an outsider to buy 12 str 10 dex 6 slot EP for 25b.

3. "I'm still not banned now.If you have any doubt with my
legitimate,try to take me down by any means you want!"

You came asking for my help to clear your name and I provided every knowledge I have to assist you, believing in your detailed explanation. Are you high or did someone convince you that I reported you separately?

Spoiler: "The help"

It's quite difficult to understand what you actually imply in your message. Is this like a confession that you were a hidden RWTer all along and fooled me with lies or are you saying I reported you falsely?

 

Collective Panic.

Humans are by nature a social animal and we tend to protect our own by instinct. We give and take from one another and as we do so we develop pride in what we feel provides for us. Not everyone questions inveterate authority at a critical level. In other words, they clearly feel as if they are receiving the warm fuzzies and a good head pat for not speaking up. And that is all they want.

 

ok but why y'all coming for my forum janitor in crime trying his best just to keep shit from spiraling out of control

 

@Sen @Dave Deviluke I know you guys love your jobs and want the best for the server, and thank you for letting me hash this out on this thread. But why are you cleaning up the admins’ messes?

This isn’t about protecting the community anymore- this is a dialogue that needs to be had and they refuse to show up at the table because they know good people like you will take care of them.

 

Y'all need to have some ridiculous stances to further hurt Staff image.. Imo Staff image can only go up from here

 

Yes, that is precisely what I am saying. They are words. If you don't let them bother you they do absolutely nothing to you. The way you are impacted by words is a choice, you decide to be offended, hurt, angry, or whatever. As a society we would be in a better place if we adopted the mentality that I am outlining opposed to allowing words to hurt and anger us. Call me any name in the book and I will never take offense, and if anything, I'll laugh and banter right back with you.

Like, let's say you have a kid, and he's in school. Another kid calls him a nerd. Is it better for your son to:

1. Take no offense, laugh, play along and take jabs back in a playful and unoffended way

2. Experience negative emotions, get hurt, sad, whine to the teacher, have the other student get in trouble and tarnish a potential friendship/relationship with one of his peers

I know that personally, I rather my son be the former without a doubt. The people who are the happiest in life tend to be those who are laid back and easy going, not uptight and hyper sensitive. You can't be happy if you're always offended, or even worse, looking for something to be offended by/the victim of.

Just my opinion tho, I don't care if you disagree, das life - people can say, think, and do things that we disagree with!

 

New player coming in to the community, I must say now I am utterly disappointed with the management especially. A total mess. You're a human first before you're a staff member on a mushroom game. Please don't lose your morality and rationality over made up rules. It seems @Hamburg is right all along.

 

ieatemokids, your so called "forum janitor in crime" is supporting the "48 hour rule" which is receiving much deserved backlash.

 

Wow, what a black and white way of looking at bullying, harassment and other very dangerous situations! You're essentially dodging the problem of harassment by stating "just deal with it."

How about a reasonable option:

3. Reprimand and educate harassers so that they'll think twice before committing such actions in the future.

As someone who was bullied in school I can say that 1 and 2 are wrong on so many different levels. Just because one person can "take no offense" does not mean that the action or behavior is acceptable.

P.S. There's a difference between being just bothered by words vs being harassed and doxed.
And either way I wouldn't want to be friends with douchebags.

 

I think it's interesting how the other Staff members take in a nuanced position of encouraging people to speak out against Tim; which to me implies dat they don't question that they have a valid point. Yet they don't voice their own opinions, 'because it can be held against staff' or 'hurts staff image'. To me it feels like they are scared of the repercussions by speaking out against their own superiors. Dictatorship type beat

EDIT: I can't type.

 

You can criticize a person's viewpoints without calling them a "corporate parrot" or attempting to psychoanalyze their entire existence though. You can also recognize that a person's viewpoints are often much more complex and nuanced than can be gleaned from two lines of a private discussion. And because Dave doesn't feel as comfortable sharing internal discussion to defend his viewpoints, I will:

https://i.filehostingsite/KbNRj0L/june.png

I hope you don't mind me sharing this June. The point that Dave is trying to make to everyone here is that he's hesitant about sharing too much of his own personal viewpoints until whatever this "context" is is provided. I'm a wild child so I clearly haven't done that. Dave's tone of language can also be explained by the fact that he professionally works in customer service and his native language is not English. My personal disagreement and disappointment with current Staff management and decision-making aside, I just want to speak out about how Forum Moderators have to deal with just as much nonsense from the community as well. I obviously empathize with the frustrations felt by everyone regarding recent events, but when Dave and I place an active effort upon ourselves to provide greater clarity and transparency between the community and Staff we are often the ones that have to put up with all these verbal beatings fueled by people's (rightful) fury. And for me, part of why I decided to take a semi-break from my official duties is exactly because this "burnout" that we often speak of from this immense pressure is felt both ways for us. Because Lord knows if I was the one trying to moderate all these threads I woulda snapped at half y'all by now lol.

 

"I don't care if you disagree, das life - people can say, think, and do things that we disagree with!"