Let's discuss: do you think this deserves an unban?

Why are you laughing? Looks like someone that is happy that got his revenge.. I tought you were “hurt for being harassed”

 

its off topic this case, iam talking in general.
LOL and in illegal game dont try to find uncorupted stuff because all the idea here is corrupted u smartass XDXDXDXD

 

I don't want to interrupt but let's shift our focus to mushroom shrine Zipangu, I understand it is a literation of Japan so shouldn't it be Snowing now? I am an otaku ( I eat ramen every day * KAWAII * and I watch 50 anime last month o3o/ TOKYOO NE) and I know sakura only blossoms in Spring which is at Feb-May

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this is getting out of hand, here's my take on it:

 

I dont know what happen to make you guys harrass each other. All i can see is that:
SOMEONE IS THE OWNER OF THIS SERVER AND HE CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANT (feedback? lol its a joke tbh)

You guys just play a game under his rules lol.
Try to be friend with him now, quick quick

 

I've still yet to see anything that paints Raony in a favourable light, from his responses on here to the evidence currently provided
The general action seems to be that of being overly defensive on a continued basis.
I don't know any of the involved people to be honest, the whole thing seems very strange to an outsider like myself.
Raony's general character seems worse every time I read anything that he himself has posted though.
So I'd say no it doesn't deserve an unban

PS: YOU CAN'T PUT A TIME LIMIT ON VICTIMS OF SEXUAL HARRASSMENT

 

I truly did not want to get involved in this as I'm friends with both sides and I want to be neutral. I just wanted to say that many of the posts on this thread are the exact reason why the server is becoming so "toxic" as everyone says. The point of @Sharu's thread wasn't for making the entire server hate one person, but to point out favoritism in staff and their failure to be unbiased in carrying out rightfully deserved justice for a bannable offense. However, people are taking this as an opportunity to create a snowball effect and exponentiating the toxicity rather than address the questions, "What went wrong here? How can we prevent this in the future". I believe that's what @Tim was aiming for but did a poor job in conveying that to the rest of the staff by proposing an ultimatum--a complete abuse of power. I'm friends with @Raony and I made it clear to him that what he did was not excusable and I believe he deserves to be slapped with the 7 day ban BUT also have the opportunity to appeal that ban if he believes it was unjust--this is the standard procedure that was by-passed in this case.

However, I can understand Tim's frustration and ambivalence about how to handle this situation as the last few weeks have been filled with petty back-and-forth weaponizing and targeting against each other--this just adds more toxicity. I'm guessing that Tim was sick and tired of people doing petty reports against each other and wanted to put his foot down in this case, but it was poorly timed (or there was favoritism involved) because it was his friend that got banned. But I also know that @Tim told Sharon to let him know if the harassment continues, and when Sharon perceived that she was continuing to be harassed and went to Tim to tell him about it, Tim did not help her and called her "petty". I think Tim should take responsibility and keep himself accountable by admitting that this was extremely poorly handled and that he will do better for this server and treat everyone equally, which includes banning his friend--isn't this what we are all looking for?

I am also friends with @Sharu and I can tell you that she doesn't want everyone's pity but wants rightful action taken against the other party. She would be wholly satisfied and would not have made the report in the first place if Raony's ban was not uplifted. I don't know if there were any ulterior motives on both sides, considering the drama over certain people's perma bans the last few weeks. But I do know that this could all have ended if each party didn't act like children and do the whole "He said, she said" petty bantering and exposing with "evidence" against each other. This could have been all avoided if both parties just stopped at the beginning, reflected on their own actions, and have the maturity to own up to their mistakes.

@Raony you're my friend, but I'm going to be honest. What you did was despicable and you need to change your behavior, my friend. There's no doubt that you were hurt by truly racist and bullying comments in the beginning. But I truly don't think the best way to retaliate was doxxing Sharon and saying the hurtful things that you said, when you had the option of handling it more maturely instead of the way you reacted. And as for the screenshot of the whispers, I hope this whole experience helps you learn the lesson that you should approach women in a more respectful manner and change how you interact with people--be more empathetic and considerate. I care about you, so please don't take my words the wrong way. If you are remorseful, I think the server will be more forgiving.

@Sharu As a woman, I can also understand your feelings and frustrations about being talked to that way. I don't know what the context behind those whispers were and I don't know what you were saying in alliance chat before that and I don't know whether you were trying to retaliate for Shin's ban, but I do agree that you deserve proper actions to be taken about your report, which you didn't get. However, we disagree in a few things in this case, but I will still continue to try to point out your role in this mess also--as a friend, I want to help you grow and better yourself.

@June I don't know you and I absolutely agree with how you feel about sexual harassment and how this case was so poorly handled and the biases in Staff. HOWEVER, I also find it absolutely unprofessional of you to use your GM account to single out and personally attack and name drop someone live in-game through notices. You could have made a thread to address how you felt about the entire issue and talked about what's happening with staff. You were considerably unprofessional in handling this matter and though your intentions were good, you abused your GM powers as well by doing this. I am not attacking you but I just want to give you food for thought. I don't think it was wrong of you to bring the issue to light and I think we all agree with your concerns, but I just think the method you used was not appropriate. I think your actions may have contributed to making the server even more toxic because of the uproar it caused.

Guys, we can do better than this. Let's not pile up all our rage and take it out on everyone--how is this constructive at all? We should calmly list out what went wrong here, how it can be fixed in a way that is justifiable for both parties, and how we can prevent this in the future. To all the Staff, you all work so hard and I see it because I'm friends with a few of you. Please consider players' feedback in this matter and communicate to us how this will be prevented in the future.

So much has happened in 2020, but let's see if we can end the year on a better note.

~Snay

P.S. This will be my only post on this thread and I will not reply to anyone's responses to this post as I do not wish to bicker back and forth.

 

Do you think the staffs are more intelligent than you? So they deserve the rights to change anything as long as its for their benefit. And you guys just have to follow like the poor sheeepp (baaaa).

Whatever, but they have the rights to change any rules as long as they want (especially in this case is benefited for their friends).

Last but not least, read this again how they decide to make a rules (and dont forget to "baaaaa" as you should)
"Either its being added or im out and i dont wanna be out"
"I follow Tim"
"Will there be an official announcement about the 48 hours?"
...
See how they rule us, baaaaaaa

 

This is one of the most laughable posts I've ever read on the internet ever, I'm sorry but you can't genuinely think people will take any of this seriously. Also @Aestel you're verging on victim blaming my dude

 

@Matt i am seriously thinking that this woman can replace timk!!!!!! (dont trying offend anyone )
think about it!

 

I didn’t get any revenge bro, this whole thread is a feedback thread and you happened to be the person who got unbanned without any valid reason.
I’m laughing cause of the stupid shit you say.
You said I’m unsatisfied with my body- what a weird assumption, I fucking love myself.
Even if I didn’t like my body you got no right to come into this personal area and suggest stuff especially while I told you a couple of times not to talk about my body. No justification, just stop.

 

Idk why people are complaining at the fact that this happened a month ago. The screen shot was taken, friend or not if this happened a month ago it clearly shows she was uncomfortable. Friends can cause sexual harassment too, that does NOT make it okay. The screenshot a month ago could be a way of her showing that she was NOT okay with it but didn’t know how to come out with it. And tbh the 48 hours for things like sexual harassment in my opinion is wack. In real life people don’t come out and open about this stuff in years. Yeah maybe if it’s something like, if someone got defamed 50 times, then the 48 hour rule should be applied. But if it’s something more serious like a sexual harassment, it takes time and courage to own up to that. Idk this is just my two cents

 

Harrassment online is never ok, neither is victim blaming.

 

I think it's safe to say that everyone agrees with the fact that something wrong has been done here and no one got punished for it, it takes very basic knowledge and experience on this server to know that players got punished with permanent bans for far far less than that.
it puts us the players who invest their absolute all in this game question the staff integrity, it makes me rethink and revalue the time I want to invest in this game moving forward if the one that is managing it does not have pure intentions.
yes the hard work, the countless hours days months, and years timk has invested will not and should not be discredited, but it does not give him the right to be treated differently and trusted as if he is a pure angel and all of his intentions are good.
nothing I will say will describe how disappointing it is seeing how tim replayed to sharon about her facebook pictures, it is ignorant on so many levels.
as for @June , I do not know you but from what I have seen so far, you are a wonderful strong person and I wish everyone on staff stood up as you did, do not doubt anything you did even for a second, it disgusts me to acknowledge the fact that someone honest and good like you will have to leave and go for the favor some mixed-up wrong intention that tim has going on.
tim, if you read this, you do not know me, and I don't know you either, all I can say is, I appreciate royals more then you could ever imagine, this was a light in the dark for me on so many occasions hence why i appreciate everything you have done, but please, take a look back at your actions, it is very clear that your judgment is clouded.
if you are coming from a place of "i have been giving so much to you all and you are taking me for granted hence why i will behave and do whatever i want" it is beyond wrong, it is better to say how you feel, admit for the mistakes and fix it all, you must understand that people are looking up to you.

as for raony, its not just about what you said, it's about your attitude and the intentions you had, this quote below emphasizes it.

 

This/timing of the new rule seems off considering the circumstances surrounding how/why other users were permanently banned a few weeks ago

 

TIMK MAKING RULES AS HE GOES LIKE A KID WHOS LOSING. ILL GO HOME IF YOU GUYS DONT AGREE WITH MY IS THE MOST CHILDISH SHIT IVE EVER SEEN!

 

As someone who was on the first pages and now has read Raony's side of view, it's nice how we are stepping up about the issue and uniting and I'm sorry if I was biased and did not give constructive criticism but I think the reason why people are being aggressive (or toxic) than we were before because we feel like we are being unheard or uncared about for so long.

I think If we are passive we get ignored flat.
If we tend to be aggressive we are seen as overreacting and still ignored (?) because you guys just quickly pulled that 48 hours report rule without even asking for the community's opinions.
It's like whatever attitude we pull you guys won't care because you guys just do what you guys think is best but what about what we think?

How many times are some of the issues of this server has been repeated over and over? Years.
If you really care about the server, then how come the majority feels the opposite? Never tried to self reflect before?

I know it's hard to change a mindset just for a bunch of people you don't even know but we deeply care about this server and community so it would be nice If you guys would really try, we're not looking for a drastic change so quickly (but not too slow either because as I said some issues here are already taking years to make it happen) but we can tell If you guys are opening up to change and tasks onhand. This game is supposed to be fun and make us (not just the players but The Staff too) happy, please don't just see it as a job because doing that makes sense why you guys are so burnt out and maybe getting tired of what we think. We just want a Leader who knows how to talk and listens to us because we feel like you guys are being out of reach. Um, that's just my two cents? Thank you for reading.

 

This is exactly what is leaving a bad taste in my mouth.

(#FreeDiviBlack <3)

 

ban timk ffs

 

#bantimk

 

You can tell some of these people sexually harass/victim blame people irl too by the way they’re replying here.