Let's discuss: do you think this deserves an unban?

Nah, they cant do it irl, they just can do it here in this mushroom game only, where they have power in their hand and all of you should follow it uwu

 

Staff integrity aside the fact that the same group of people who complained a month ago about loopy being banned for saying a certain controversial word and called everyone else snowflakes are now here complaining about someone not being banned for percieved sexual harassment really just shows it's nothing but a petty argument between various groups of friends and guilds trying to weaponize the rules in their favor.

 

But only one side remain banned?

 

@Sharu
In the first comment, you said you didn't include half of the harassments, what are you saving the other half for? next Christmas or something?? You make a report, and then you leave half of the evidence out. what the fuck "I'm feeling so harassed" hehexD
The second comment, you are not scared of Rogue's response. Why should you even be scared of Rogue's response in the first place? This feedback is about how you deemed that the appeal was treated unfairly no? Also, this incident in Oblivion's discord, why are you trying to drag Rogue into this?

 

I've not been around for long like many here. I only started in April this year, but I could quickly see what makes Royals beloved - for many, it's has become more than a game, it has become community, family. It has become that for me as well - for a period of time I've mostly quit the game itself, but I've only come on just to chat with the people.

It's then understandable that these same people are invested in the game and how it should be run. Sure, some replies got out of hand, but we would tend to get more emotional over things that matter to us.

I do not personally know the people affected and involved, but it saddens me to see the state of things and how they are progressing. People attacking each other, flawed and strawman arguments being thrown around - that was a part of it - but what was more disappointing was how there is little visible action being taken to address the actual problem. If there are steps being taken that we cannot see, I'm sure the community would like some accountability, and this would also give the Staff a tangible defence against accusations of inaction.

I don't think what the community needs is the empowerment to bring about any change we call for, or to pressure the Staff into taking any action against their will. What we need is for things to be called out for what they are - if it is so the stance that the Staff have the final say, that exceptions are discretionary without the need for explanation, that "acceptable" is defined on relative and subjective terms - then we need it to be explicitly said so, so that we can decide if this is an environment we want to be in.

To the people who said something to the effect of "the Admins can do whatever they want since it's their server", yes, the leader of North Korea can do anything he wants because he owns NK as well. That doesn't make everything he does legitimate and morally upright, however. Defining the laws of your own Simcity may give them legitimacy within that confined realm, but if considered from an independent point of view, all legitimacy dissolves.

If this is deemed to be the best way a server should be run, I don't believe anyone should be coerced to think otherwise. What we need is an admission that this will be the way things will be run moving forward, and then we can decide if we are willing to accept a realm of fluid rules and subjective morality. We would not want to be in an environment where we have the illusion of our voices being heard, but in reality have no impact on the final outcome.

Yet, I don't believe this is what the Admins stand for. I believe you still truly want the best for the server and the people, and that while some things may have been acted upon in impulse or handled suboptimally, your intentions remain pure. What I implore you is to have the humility to admit to wrongdoing where necessary, and the gentleness to rebutt any baseless accusation without offence. For areas where there are inconsistencies between what is said and what things are, listen to the voices of reason within the community and work towards a solution. A defence of your honour is important, yes, but there has to be more than that.

It was sad seeing people this afternoon smega-ing "B> Mesos / where's TimK with the rules / LF> Ban", and others just dropping all their items over the FM and deleting their accounts. These weren't nobodies who had nothing to lose, but players who had invested years of time and have donated extensively - to have them quit like that meant that they were visibly shaken, and if this reverberates throughout all our subcommunities in Royals, it may not be the same for quite a while.

Of course we'll recover, just like everyone did from the New Source saga. But just because people recover and return doesn't mean the hurt has faded, nor that it was justified. I know we can do better, and I'd like to say we must, but I have no right to impose that imperative upon the team. Instead, I'd say - please let us know if you're willing to address these very pertinent concerns, and how the team plans to do so moving forward - at least then we'd know there is action that undergirds the talk.

 

Oh shit can you forum ban me? @Sen

 

Even though we have our differences, did this really happened? Will you be able to provide evidence to back this claim of yours up? Especially the last part, because that is a very serious problem.

 

I mean you make a report and then proceed to only use half the evidence. Also very shady that you are avoiding why you only post half of it. If you explain it and stop beating around the bush, people might actually understand.

 

What didn’t i post lmao you all are welcomed to post whatever. That’s a feedback thread about a specific occasion I felt was rigged. This thread is not about raony. I posted what’s relevant to this thread

 

it's on the first page, first post bro. why you're commenting when clearly you didn't take the time to thoroughly read through is beyond me.

 

He just doesn’t believe it happened. Luckily, I got like 20+ witnesses you can go and ask @Aestel
You think I’m gonna lie about doxxing? Can clearly see your disrespect towards me that’s so wack

 

One of @Sharu posts was saying that she has evidence of something and if anyone wants it, feel free to pm her. Hence why I'm asking. I'm not going to bother to search 16 pages for that comment she made. But apart from all this about staff, my question still stands, why is it that you only post half of the evidence?

 

I said about harassment. Not doxxing.
And I’m honestly not interested in any interaction with you, peace.
You accusing me for getting harassed and doxxed and I told you already, if you wanna know more ask people from oblivion. Wish i had the screenshot of the pic he sent.
My conversation with you ends here since it’s irrelevant to my feedback thread and your behavior disgusts me

 

The fact that you are protecting Raony and you read everything on this thread, your dumbass should be banned too. Posting half or all of the evidence doesn't take anything away from what Raony said to her.

 

No problem, continue avoiding the question, and have a nice day!
-You want staff to act appropriately, but you only send them half of the information. Very interesting.

 

Jesus christ, what a bad faith argument. She posted what she believed was the whole story, the retort made by her critics was that it was not the full story. So she taunted them to post the "other half" of the story, suggesting there isn't one. Based on the response from the user, it's literally a case of "Haha was I inappropriate? We were such good friends!!", but at the same deleted almost of his discord messages that proved her case. I have talked to Sharon in VC, I have been vulgar, and I was close enough friends with her to get her a birthday present, but I would never have said the things this user has said.

Also to emphasize the lack of credibility this idiot has, he made a slight character slander about her drug use and how she talks about being high all the time. How is that relevant to the conversation? It was intentionally ambiguous to try to show Sharon in bad faith. The truth? She smokes a lot of pot, which I found a lot of mapleroyal players do. I personally do not, but imagine trying to make out someone as a druggy who uses pot recreationally.

Another point I would like to stress to you that he didn't apologize for over stepping boundaries, he apologized for trusting her and being her friend. Totally different, and the other apologies he did make were not in context to the scenario that was presented. All of these things show someone being honest, while the other is trying to discredit the argument of the other with slanderous things.

 

She complains about how staff act, but then provides only half of the evidence. Maybe if she provided ALL the evidence, Raony might actually remain banned and none of this would've happened.

 

Yes, her feedback is about timk behaviour, dont try to protect your friend anymore lol, its irrelevant.



Dont forget what timk said
They try to bully poor sharu f4

 

Not sure what "I" means to you, but ok

 

Bro shut up, this is prob Raony's other account lmao.