Let's discuss: do you think this deserves an unban?

Calm down, Josh has made it very clear he doesn't agree with the decision here. I don't either, but that doesn't invalidate what all Tim has done for us and it will be a tragedy if he does end up leaving. That's just fact, it isn't supporting him, but it needs to be acknowledged there was a personal prejudice here because of them being friends.

 

In South America refering to a Brazilian as a monkey is 100% racism, I've also seen people use that word in English as derogatory term for Brazilians.

 

I do not know OP, and have only spoken to Raony once or twice in my 5 years here. So i'm not predisposed to like either side of this situation.

I have a really tough time looking at this whole situation as "doxxing" in its commonly used way on the internet and not just Harassment. When I see the word 'doxxing' used, Its almost always to state that someone's personal information has been given out including but not limited to home address, cell phone, first and last name, parents names, sibling and children full names. In the case of someone who has chosen and continues to choose to remain anonymous on the internet, finding information and then exposing pictures and other identifying factors to the public would absolutely be what i consider Doxxing. But if someone uses their own picture for their discord while joining and participating in public Discords, while posting pictures of themselves to said discord, and then also posting pictures to a public internet forum how can it be claimed another person has doxxed them after they used a different set images of the same person in question? Haven't they already been identified? Their picture were already in the public domain. They've willingly shared pictures of themselves with not just a single person but a large group of people. I also ask how Raony could obtain access to someone's personal facebook page, if the OP hadn't either A. Previously given him access to it, B. Foolishly shared enough details about themselves to allow a stranger to connect dots to find their profile. Having your picture as your Discord Profile Pic, makes connecting those dots much easier. I do very much agree that going after someone's looks is a shitty thing to do, and going to their facebook page to get images to further their harassment is mega shitty and I believe the ban for Harassment is justifiable.

 

Raony is a licensed nutrition coach and does personal training
This disgust me.
There is NO way a LICENSED nutrition coach would say "you have big tits & flat ass" to someone trying to make them feel better about themselves.

Time to leave this planet.

 

Thats the most disgusting reason ever lol, he should find a better reason to protect his perv friend

 

So as if I'm a teacher, am i legitimate to say that you're uncultured and poorly educated? And you should take it as a constructive comment and not sarcasm?

 

im very calm i strongly disagree and dont be upset cuz im right and your wrong. sounds like another temper tantrum incoming? you guys are pathetic. supporting pervs just aint the way but 2020 what a way to end it. patheticcccc

 

Lmao
Also as an admin, you are free to bend the rules and unban your friend whenever you want
I wish someone got banned here before can read this and see that the person who banned them is just a perv himself lol

 

I understand the frustration of both parties and the rest that are concurrently debating on it, however from my understanding is that end of the day MapleRoyals is a Maplestory Private Server which owned by Matt whom is also friend of Timk.
Therefore it doesn’t matter whether who is right or wrong because ultimately the one who got the absolute power gets to decide the outcome with or without any satisfactory response.

Honestly i am truly pity and felt sorry for loopy, Sharu and June but i guess y’all not able to get the justice that y’all hope to see it.

 

I understand where you're coming from, seeing how pictures of people are shared all over the internet at any given time, it's rather silly to call someone a doxxer just cause he/she shared someone else's picture. However, i believe that it's not the action of posting someone else's picture, but rather, the malicious intent behind said action that would constitute as an actual dox.

 

Tim is almost 30, let him step down and take care of his irl stuffs rather than abusing power in this game but still think he is a hero uwu

 

Can't Tim just start to look for his successor already? This doesn't mean he needs to retire but the point still stands what If he were to leave one day? Like with Karven, relying on one person doing a huge task isn't healthy and the consequences are so heavy such as giving the role to the wrong person.

 

This is so obvious, idk how people are so confused.
They were friends, having a conversation as you do. Someones body was mentioned and discussed which is what can happen when you converse between friends, if you don't ever talk about this sort of stuff with friends then you need to get out lmao. she didn't want her body as a topic of conversation because she thinks x about her body. the guy tried to msg her privately instead to say she can easily fix it. that's not harrassment. you people need to relax. she took a screen shot, and didnt report it? probably cause that screen shot was sent to her boyfriend or someone else with no intention to use it as a weapon.

However fast forward some time, you guys argue, the boyfriend calls the "perv" a monkey and that he's hitting on your gf. The guy comes back with a dirty move of sending a pic of the gf basically calling her ugly .lets be honest here, its obvious that you're not upset cause its doxing, you're upset cause he called you ugly. The couple are super offended so they go on the attack and the bf gets banned. now extra salty cause the bf is banned and the girl got called ugly, the couple tries to weaponize reports using anything they can grasp at as "evidence" which isn't much. with the evidence provided, harassment and doxing is a stretch.

iirc theres a post near page 7 with someone in the alliance basically confirming its an attack. people should go look at it.

 

I don't even know where to unpack the like 20 pages of posts since last night.

I guess my tl;dr is I'm tired and disappointment. To people asking, I'm not going anywhere, but that doesn't mean I'm okay with what's been happening. If all this doesn't result in positive change.. it's going to be depressing. I don't blame any of you for being upset, or angry at Staff- we've let the players down, and I'm acknowledging it, even if others won't.

 

I’m obviously not upset about him calling me ugly because when we first met he told me and I’m quoting:”you’re 10/10”.
I’m upset because it’s not fair someone can afford himself leaving comments on MY body over and over again and then dox me on a huge discord group. No one deserves this kind of behavior and I feel so sick of you people blaming me for reporting him.. You can’t judge me and my feelings. What about the people who said they saw the doxxing? If you choose to ignore all of the above, you got no empathy.

 

What in the seven seas am I even reading.

 

(Off topic)

The Dead Sea.

 

Now that I finally caught up, my quick takeaway's from TimK's update post

1. He's extremely biased since he's close friends with Roany
2. He went out of his way to say stress that Roany's English is not his first language to try and make it seem like there was a barrier that caused miscommunication, therefore excusing his dirty comments, even though his English in all his posts is perfectly fine
3. He went out of his way to mention that his friend Roany is a personal trainer to make it seem like he was giving appropriate advice so she can better herself although clearly he's demeaning her

 

Belittling someone by using derogatory terms like “tiny” puts you in the same boat as Roany who had the nerve to “baby” June in the shoutbox. It does not help your argument and it is unhealthy for this thread which has seen an overwhelming level of support for Sharon and June and the social justice, consistency and staff accountability that they are advocating for.

Tim has not presented himself well in this entire argument and I think that does to an extent speak of his ideals and his unfortunate bias, however that does not deter him from the tremendous amount of work he has put in over the last 6 years. I think in that regard he has done a fantastic job, but equally that doesn’t right his wrongs and nor does a single incident wrong his rights.

Having said that I have to disagree with Tim being a great leader because as little as I know him, the fact that he has singlehandedly tried to tank all the admin bitchwork over the years without advocating for work delegation is testimony to the flaws in the current MapleRoyals administration. This is more detailed in Josh’s thread but having one developer and one admin who manages the majority of this server’s backend day to day function is a significant misjudgment by the administration itself.

I do trust Josh when he says no one else on the current staff roster can lead in the same way Tim has though. We have to trust current and ex-staff on this because we haven’t had the opportunity to work with them.