Revert (?) Magic Throwing Knife

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Should MTK be reverted to its original visuals?

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  1. Tomfoolery
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    I'm not sure if this is well known, but Magic Throwing Knives (MTKs) in this server are modified and does not look like how it does in the original servers; it is 3-pointed instead of 5, and as a result gives the impression that it's smaller than the original, and much less flashier. Below are the screenshot/gif comparisons of how they look like.

    MTK icon in Royals:
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    MTK icon in original servers:
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    MTK when thrown in Royals:
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    MTK when thrown in original servers:
    1 person throwing
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    Many people throwing (which in my opinion looks sexy as hell)
    [​IMG]

    I have asked and surveyed quite a fair number of people in game and the vast majority (if not all) prefer how it looks originally. I think that MTKs are a unique star, and given it's price it should stand out when thrown instead of being blocked or hidden behind other stars.

    Furthermore, the description for MapleRoyals on gtop100 states "We always try to keep the server as nostalgic as possible whilst adding custom content (such as hairstyles, faces and NX items) that enriches the game without hurting the gameplay we all miss". The original aesthetics of MTKs are nostalgic to me (and to many others as well, I'm sure) and I feel the custom change in this server is unnecessary.

    Could we please change MTKs to look like how it does in the original servers, please? =)
     
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    YES PLZ OMG B> if that happens
     
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    On the topic of MTK they are much more costly to craft than bfuries but are the same atk :confused: i don't think looking different is enough to justify the huge price increase
     
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    I personally disagree (no surprise there, I suppose), but I respect the nostalgia factor! Perhaps you can put up a poll, and let people vote! Figured it's worth mentioning that it's also possible to keep both around; one in the form of a NX star and the other default (no matter which is which). :)
     
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    My concern is if the sprite/animation is changed, by your same GIF of many people throwing the stars, I literally can't see shit as a melee player. It'll be hard to see the boss animations and it'll be hard to see my melee teammates as well since the star is in front of everything else. The original star itself is like half the size of a player whereas the Royals star looks like it's only 1/4 or 1/3. Maybe the OG would be fine if it was smaller? That's just my concern.
     
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    Is it possible to get your reason on why you disagree with this suggestion? What was your thoughts on the OG MTK sprite when you had first received this sprite and decided to rework it? Were you in conflict over the visual clarity in a fight?
     
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    Those of us who worked hard on that patch all found it extremely ugly, and agreed that the rework was a big improvement. :p Did not consider at the time that people would find it nostalgic. @bacondagger makes a good point, of course. So the short answer to your question is: I disagree for aesthetic reasons! Hope that answers it!
     
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    As a melee lover, i wouldnt like make them even bigger..yes hose look cool, but would be a pain on the ass in bosses like bga( btw lf silent nx trowing stars)
     
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    I like the new one more, the old one looks too big
     
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    This will give me a reason to stop annoying my friends with my beyblades.

    +1
     
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    I'm not sure how to put up a poll now that the thread is already up, could any staff assist me with that? uwu
    The NX form of the star seems like a decent idea - I do hope that if a consensus is not reached, the NX version would be implemented instead to keep both around!

    I would argue that several NX stars are much much bigger and more of a nuisance than the original MTK, along with the effects of those NX stars when they hit the bosses (for non NX stars, its just a small blue hitbox thingy whereas the santa NX stars for example, literally blocks the entire boss lmao). Furthermore, I don't think many people own MTKs here (how many NLs have you seen throwing them?), this shouldn't be a big problem I hope.

    I, on the other hand, was extremely disappointed at how it looked when I first threw an MTK here ~f4 Of course I respect that everyone has their own opinions, I hope a poll can be put up to see what everyone else thinks!
     
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    You have a point with the NX stars but I can just ask them to take it off if it's a problem for me. But... I can't tell someone to not use their stars... or take off the base skin. I haven't done much end game bossing which is why I'm just expressing my worries. If the animation/item is indeed getting reverted, I hope the visual clarity is maintained.
     
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    Actually, now that I think about it, the boss animations wouldn't be blocked at all because of the small blue "hitbox thingy" - in the GIF in my original post, the boss is clearly seen. Also I THINK your own character appears above all the stars and skill animations (I may be wrong, will check later), which just leaves your melee teammates, but I personally don't see why you need to see them xD
     
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    mtk but 12k crit lines wtf
     
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    In order to craft Highest weapon attack stars (MTK,BF) in game
    MTK:
    upload_2021-3-1_17-38-53.png

    Nano Plant (Omega) 100m~
    Nano Plant (Y) <5m
    Nano Plant(Sigma) <5m
    1 llbi throwing-stars 1m~2m
    Silver coin x1000 (200 to sealed wiseman stone ) 600k each x 1k = 600m
    Tax fee: 500m
    total around : 1.2b+
    BF:
    upload_2021-3-1_17-39-16.png

    Black Crystals x100 1.5m x100= 150m
    Tao of Harmony x5 8m x5 =40m
    Tao of Sight x5 8mx5= 40m
    Tao of Shadows x5 40mx5= 200m
    Typhon Feathers x30 self farm<30minutes (let us said 60m for farm)
    TAX fee: 150m
    total around : 640m+
    we can find out making 1xmtk=2x bf (COST)
    We knew mtk was nerfed 1wa as original one , cuz dont' want nl too op
    But the mesos cost so much different, and I don't really feel worth to craft it.

    So
    Why ppl craft mtk right now?
    When both stars same attack (mtk nerfed) but fury cheaper a lot:admincry:
    Maybe Mtk more ez to recharge ? no need back NLC~f12 I know many ppl made Recharge mules for fury , or just buy 24 sets fury:tobenawoo:
    normally ppl will prepare 10sets for boss... so if lazy go back NLC
    make MTK = 1.2B x 10= 12B
    make BF = 640m x 10 = 6.4b
    pay 5.6b more.... to use mtk ? ~f18 I feel such a waste , this star can be amazing!!! supposed to be FINAL END GAME stars atm
    so
    I hope mtk can change back to original version , was so nice , big and looks COOL
    upload_2021-3-1_17-57-47.png
    YES ~f14~f14~f14 the Nostalgic one , I am sure a lot ppl willing to pay more mesos for this cool thing. Like those ppl who pay 15b~20b buy rare nx . :admindab:


    PS
    currently in game fury vs mtk
    is like
    upload_2021-3-1_20-27-16.png

    mtk so small and fury so ez cover...~f4
    and
    If add nx version.. ppl just buy cllbi and use NX version... ~f8

    plz let this Nostalgic star back!!!
     
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    Disagree with adding a NX throwing star cover since it devalues the star itself but I have a different proposal to this. Would it be possible to use two different item IDs (1 for original & 1 for new) and make them interchangeable through a NPC only when they are fully recharged? This suggestion seems more viable because it lets the player choose which variation of the star they want.
     
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    Im glad they change back to 5 blade mtk version, was asking a gm few month ago and he said 3 blades looks cooler xD~
     
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    3QQ for revert back:D

    Before patch
    upload_2021-4-4_21-57-59.png

    After patch
    upload_2021-4-4_21-58-56.png
     
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    damn why y'all NLs so desperate for such huge, thick throwing stars tho... compensating much?? o_O
     
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    I love them little :O I haven't ever seen them little tho, what's their appearance rn?
     

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