Minimum hp for endgame night lord?

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    So I am planning to make a night lord soon and wash it. However, I have no intention to do an extreme wash. I just want the bare minimum. I wanna have enough hp to be able to do zak, ht, and every other boss(not talking about pink bean!) And not die.

    I dont wanna be able to touch HT twice and stay alive, that's an overkill.

    I just want the bare minimum hp required to survive all the strongest bosses in this server. I've heard that it is around 9100 hp, please let me know.

    I am somewhat funded but not stupid rich, which is why I don't want crazy hp numbers like 15k+ etc...

    As I said I just want enough HP to do all the bosses without dying.

    Thanks!!!!! :)
     
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    About 9.8k to start on legs, but remember you get hp from other sources like gear and hp quest :).
     
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    I dont know what hp quest is
    But also why do I need hp for the legs? Can't I just not touch them and be ok?
     
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    9.8k+, i'd recommend to be safe 10k~ for HT. But I would recommend washing to just a 12k+ (keep in mind that you would likely have gear that gives you HP, like a BFC or your medals, and the HP quest so you might not need to have your goal is 12k clean, but rather 11.5k clean).

    Regarding your question about the legs, legs do damage when it stomps so even if you are not touching it, it will do damage and the tail can also similarly do this high damage. Personal experience from a NL that washed just enough to HT, you want to have 9.8k+ HP also because of the wings, which itself does quite a bit of damage 8-9k+ depending on it has atk up, and it can easily knock you forward or backwards either into a head or into a rock, where you will then die.

    If you wanted to do AUF, you would probably have to get HB or wash to 16k.

    If you want to shao (10min boss that you can do at high levels that gives you alot alot alot of exp), you want 12k, unless you have an SE mule that you can bring inside shao or you are really strong NL, it may be hard for you to duo shao unless its a multi-target strong partner. Or you can try to trio for less exp and bring HB if you dont get to 12k.
     
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    Level 189 Nightlord with 14k HP reporting in.

    I seriously regret not getting 16-17k HP unbuffed as I cannot do Toad, Auf or Dunas without Hyber Body and it's just very disappointing.
     
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    Just a note, you can do auf / dunas with 10k-11k hp (as a ranged character).
     
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    10-11khp, dunas Im not sure, but auf is definitely enough as range atker lol, just that it's dangerous if you're unconscious

    It's always safe to have higher hp. 16k makes you toad without Hb, 12k for shaolin, 11k for HT real safe. anyways, it is all depends on your fund planning.
     
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    You ever done Auf or Dunas with <12k hp? I wouldn't recommend it and that's the point of this topic.

    Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
     
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    If you want a comfortable gaming experience across all currently available bosses on this server I would suggest aiming for 16.3k HP.

    This magic number allows you to:
    - participate in all bosses without hyper body, which is not always available
    - not have to worry about dispel killing you (sometimes out of your control because you don't always have ownership of the character giving hyper body)
    - allows surviving Horntail using Honsters as the HP potion of choice (which is available for purchase from an NPC and is much cheaper than Ginger Ales and Power Elixirs)

    Remember that the following is available in addition to HP washing:
    - HP quests (+500 from Elixir of Youth and +10/20/day from Reuel)
    - HP-scrolled pet equips
    - Medals, particularly Legendary Collector which gives +1000 HP

    If you're really not willing to invest in washing to 16+k then some other options are:
    - 10.2k which brings you to 16.3 with HB, and allows for survival at HT without HB
    - 12k which allows for survival at Shaolin Temple without HB
    - 13k which allows for survival at HT with ginger ales
    - 15k which allows for survival at Dunas without HB

    I hope this helps.
     
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    I've probably done >100 runs of auf on my 11.5k hp sair

    Running on my 10.5k hp nl is way easier too

    Dunas1 is kinda special, I wouldn't do it without ~15k hp but it's not an important boss anyways

    EDIT: if you are poor like me, just train a Hb mule. I use it for toad/shao
     
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    u too pro :X
    I would never go <16k hp without both a buccaneer and a dark knight :')
     
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    ;) I learned from doing it. That's the fun of it. I still die from time to time but it's manageable depending on the bishops and TLs you have
     
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    Relying on somebody else to res you is a deathwish and will only lead to disappointment when none are available.

    Dunas v1 is actually fantastic if you can Duo it as a Nightlord, a short fight that is interesting and has great rewards even if their a low drop rate.

    Why bother, just wash to 16k and be done with it. Unless grinding out Neo-Tokyo questlines is something you do for fun.
     
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    @Dudi999 Just mentioned that he need a bare minimum hp to survive all bosses, apparently 11k is enough for auf, 16k for toad, 12k for shaolin, idk what bother u so much lmao when our whole point is "10-11k is possible to survive auf". In other word, You don't have to opt out auf haven boss run if you only have 11k.
     
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    I would like to suggest that to wash at least 16k if you want to do auf haven, it is currently the most end game boss.

    I do auf haven on a daily basis for months, and it is very easily to die if you cannot tank 1hit from auf's touch damage without hb. Yes, you can say that there is hb, res, tl and so on, but res and tl should be saved for more important situation like mass sed + stuns on bucc/pally. And range attackers are expected to not die at all and not adding potential burden to the team. My current hp is 15.9k, and I have to switch to guild medal(+500hp) to make it 16.4k so I can 100% confirm that I will not die and adding extra burden to my team.

    I mean, since you already decided to hp wash, why still put yourself in an uncomfortable situation and to expect from others. The cost of 16k is not too much from washing it to 12k. But if you do not planning to do auf or you have a hb mule by yourself, then 12k is more than enough to do every contents in this game. Hp washing is a long term investment, it is painful at the start, but it will definately be more rewarding when you close to end game.
     
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