Long term ban instead of permanent ban

That guy was banned before he made that ban appeal and was trying to lift this ban "being honest" and just wasted staff time. If people knows the limit they will just exploit it on the worse ways.
Player a vote abuse until he reaches the "limit" from minor to major, pass all their apr to player b. Player a gets a 15 days ban under minor and repeat. Now imagine playing A being a friend that doesnt really care about what happens to his account and is helping out player b because he asked to... pff

 

So I'm very curious. If a person first votes and abuses the amount he needs, and then makes this so-called confession, will he be washed away?

This is quite unreasonable, right?

As long as I deliberately abuse several accounts, and then make a confession when I reach the needed

I can still leave with my money at the end of the time.(by the confession)

It's like robbing the bank, hiding the money, and then turning yourself in to the police

because it reduces the punishment, and then living a good life with a lot of money after you get out of prison.

Do you think that's reasonable?

 

Eehmm... I'm not an staff and I don't know how they made their choices about that, but I guess they check their votes and see if it is ok to give a minor instead of major, taking in consideration also the confess. The thing is that there is no such a thing as "limit" establish on the nx you have to get through minor o major abuse and that's good so we don't have those "confessions" filling the appeal section.

 

But the problem is, in fact, it's really hard for insiders to confirm how many accounts are being abused.

In short, some people can hardly open their "abused accounts" until they need them.

They can also make the main accounts almost irrelevant to these accounts by simply changing IP or different devices,

This is not uncommon. In fact, when you Google for keywords, you can see that there are even people talking about how it works

 

I think for this rule though, it should also be on the voting page. Then there's really no excuse should someone get perma'd for it.

 

There's everyone talking about trying to solve vote abuse




And then there's me

 

I'm still waiting "the obvious reminder" to include "the obvious expected punishment" where EVERYONE can read it pretty easily.

It's like you guys purposefully want major vote abuse appeals harder than they needed to be.

+"Yes I vote abused but I didn't know that vote abuse was a bannable offense"
-"Come on dude, there's the red fucking text literally saying it can eventually be permabanned"
+"But but..."
-APPEAL DENIED.

Can't be easier than that.

 

I think there should be a warning message when you first time break the rule.（like vote abuse, account sharing, etc.)

However I think RWT and hacking are serious enough to get a permanent ban even though it's your first time offense.

For example, if I vote with a wrong way first time, I get a warning message in game(not everyone check his/her forum private message every day) or a short time ban.
Next time if I keep doing this, I will get a permanent ban.

Sometimes new players unconsciously made mistakes(maybe because of the language gap) and got permanent ban. Some of them really like Mapleroyals but they cannot continue playing this game because of their unconscious action.

Maybe there should be an alternative solution to keep these positive players instead of giving them a permanent ban directly.

Below are some solutions come to my mind:
Vote abuse as an example

1.First time offense:14 days ban and recycle the NX that you gained by vote abuse.

Some recycle NX ways:

(1)reset the player's current NX to zero

(2)current NX minus the NX you gained from vote abuse.(the NX can be a negative number)

2.Second time offense: Permanent ban. no excuse except banned the wrong person.

3.Keep tracking the player's trade/drop record to check if he wants to transfer his property to his mules. If yes, I think his all accounts will get banned.

 

Man this some cheese

The whole "you as a person are not allowed to play MapleRoyals anymore" is ridiculous, not even allowed to start over smh

Like what kind of attitude is that

 

It's like they think people can't change from their mistakes and swear they will 100% break the rules again and again and again.

"Oh yeah you account shared 3 years ago you know what we don't like account sharers, so go away you're not welcome here."

They don't want to risk and forgive people who will continue abuse if given this second chance.

A small hint: Persistent rule-breakers won't ask for forgiveness, they will laugh at the ToS and ban evade from the shadows.

If you (the Staff) are worried about forgiving someone and they continue to abuse, you can ban them a second time once and for all.

 

My appeals are linked here.

I never abused, hacked, or exploited anything.

At the time of my infraction/admittance of my infraction, I was not even playing Royals at the time, of which I would not have any recollection of the Terms and Conditions.

The primary concerns of account sharing for why the rules for account sharing were made never even came close to fruition.

How in the flying bananas does that warrant a permanent ban aka "You're not even allowed to play Royals", the same kind of punishment given to vote abusers and rwters and hackers?

You got people who might harass, say racist hoohah, get a 3 day slap on the wrist, but I get a "You're gone forever" when I never did anything ethically or morally bad

 

As you said, if I really deliberately or completely ignore the rules,

I will not write so many articles to waste my time. I will directly create new accounts.
(I didn't do that because I thought it was immoral)

In fact, I am about to graduate and move to a new home, change a new computer and a new network location.

I can be regarded as a completely different person and have friends to help me, In fact, it's not very difficult to start over. There will be a bishop in five days.

The reason why I continue to post here is that six years ago

I received GM's help in this community.
At that time, I had a very good impression of this community and felt that I should help it to become better.

Moreover, I felt that if I didn't solve this problem, it would always leave trouble in my heart.

I didn't care much about whether my account would come back or not. To be honest

Even if he returns the account to me, I don't want to come back to play in a short time.

The first reason may be that there is no time in the real world.

The second reason is that the whole thing is handled in a very bad way. There is definitely a better way.

 

Players who wanna gain an advantage, will vote abuse anyways regardless of what it's implemented.
While yes, it is possible for them to appeal to get a "2nd chance" to try to save the account andk keep vote abusing, it is also likely they would already make another account and going wild vote abusing while being unsuspecting, as they don't really need to appeal just make alt account and keep ban evading.

 

Reducing ban duration from permanent to temp on 1st offense is not the same as legalizing said offense. What the fuck man

On the first case, it is meant to give a second chance to first-offense comitters who broke the rules enough to guarantee them a permanent ban. Instead, you give a less severe punishment like temporal ban. This suggestion does not contemplate major infractions like hacking and RWT. It's only meant to sentence less severe punishments SPECIFICALLY on Account Sharing and Major Vote Abuse so long they do not relapse on a second time, in that scenario since they would be banned a first time and are supposed to respect the rules they won't have a excuse to appeal as the first ban is supposed to make them aware of the rules, so the SECOND INFRACTION should be the permanent ban.

On the second case, it's pretty much removing the punishment itself which doesn't make any sense at all as that would mean we would have a server full of cheaters.

Anyways, persistent abusers don't need to appeal.

 

Just permanently ban their characters and temp IP ban for like 6 months or something, ban for the total days they voted x2 x2 x4 (80k nx abused are 10 votes x4 means 40 days and character wipe) i mean... A guy abusing vote with a naked main must be for sure a RWT, another voting on 10 character don't even deserve to appeal, but the guy voting on 2 characters every 3 days to wash his NL because hes new on the server, doesn't have a bish and think something like "it is either abusing vote, rwt or quit" I still think than most of these problems are closely related to hp washing and the metas we have on the server. Not excusing them but if I had not voted for around 1 year and saved a ton of ws/vs when came back from a long long break some months ago I probably had quitted too with the current mule/hp washing/range checking meta, this server used to be more friendly and casual back then than it is now, just check "introduction and farewells".

Some guys deserves a second chance, some others don't even deserves the chance to write an appeal, I have some good friends perma banned for silly things like ksing twice and using a bad word once in 2 years of playing (which obviously deserves a ban, but I don't think a permanent one tho), as well as I had some other friends banned for dupping or RWT that had the moral to don't even appeal their shitty behaviors, the first ones deserves a second chance after many years, the second ones even deserves a forum account.

 

Yea ban the account, don't pull the "You're not allowed to play on this server anymore".

Literally ask yourself what kind of atmosphere you foster when you go so far as to tell people they're not even allowed to start over.

Ban the account and they have gained no advantage. But the whole "I'm going to make sure you're never allowed to play" is such a ridiculous attitude.

You wipe a vote abusers account/characters and temp ban him.
If he comes back he will know vote abusing is pointless and will play legit.
No sane person will come back, continue to abuse and lose everything over and over again. You take an extra step to kill the player base when you say "nope you as a person are not allowed to play our game". It's highly unnecessary and an ugly look

You wanna talk about fairness how about comparing my ban to actual abusers -_-