Should MapleRoyals add new classes?

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    I'm not necessarily arguing that we should, but it's fun to think about, and I'm curious about how people in the community feel about the addition of new classes. I understand that we're a nostalgic, old-school MS server, but I think that if people were interested, there's probably a way to maintain that old-school feel with some new classes.

    In a perfect world where difficulty of implementation wasn't a factor, do you think we should have new classes? Why or why not? If you had your pick, what might you add to the game?

    Personally, I'd love to see Evan and Battle Mage, just to get some bossing mages.
     
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    Are there specific reasons why you wouldn't want new classes brought into the game?
    MapleRoyals itself is proof that modifying the game in ways that deviate from Nexon/Wizet's vision can improve player experiences.
     
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    I don't think new classes are what the community wants. Honestly I personally wouldn't care if Royals released nerfed Arans/Evan/Dual Blade/Cygnus or whatever, as other people playing these classes does not affect my gameplay in any way, but that's just my two mesos. I'm not interested in more classes, and the community isn't either.
     
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    i think we should add math class it's the most important one
     
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    What do you think MapleRoyals needs/wants the most right now in terms of new content?
     
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    Autoban is the most important. Then I would say Pink Bean.

    Also to one of your original points, Mages can boss. Swiss Cheese Mages at Zak/HT hitting 5+ targets is very good damage, and if PB has insane weapon defense, Archmages could be viable.

    Given the staff's previous positions on new classes, it's not likely that new classes would be added to the server.
     
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    yes but in second world (reboot-ironman style)
    and that progress can unlock some achievements for some kind of benefits to current royals scania world (like base HP improve,nx eqps....)

    also it might be fun place to play and attract a lot more new player,return old players
    and discourage RWTrs & cheaters greatly because no trade
     
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    Evan could be interesting, it's not really op as well. Aran/dual blade are too op and Cygnus are kinda useless (cause of the level 120 limit, they are only good as blessing mules)
    The other classes are post BB and wouldn't really fit

    I don't think any of them will ever get released though
     
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    Cygnus for ultimate adventurer! You get to respawn with a special skill and item at level 50 I believe. Sounds really cool.
     
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    I wouldn't really want to see new classes tbh. Royals feels like classic maple with qol and non intrusive features. With new classes.. now that's intrusive
     
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    What's Autoban? Also, what do you think is the primary benefit of adding Pink Bean to the game? I don't mean to be obtuse, but I'm coming from a pretty casual perspective, and I'm curious to know what more serious players are looking forward to when they think about Pink Bean. Is it about the challenge of clearing the boss, or the new items that would come from a Pink Bean clear (e.g. MW30), or something else?

    That's interesting, thanks for sharing that! I haven't heard anyone discuss mages doing any kind of bossing on this server, but I'm glad that there's some merit to it. Usually when I think about bossing, it comes down to mules who offer useful party skills (SE, SI, HS, Rez, Crash) and attackers, but I don't have much experience bossing on Royals. I see how Bishops fit in, but I've had trouble understanding the relevance of I/L and F/P outside of some leeching.

    Yeah, I was looking at some older threads after I read your post last night, and I'm also doubting that we'd ever get any new classes, which is probably fine. There are already so many different things to do in Royals that I can see that a new class or two would be kind of a shallow addition at this point, and it's *somewhat* at odds with the philosophy of the server as a whole. That said, I still think it would be cool one day :8):
     
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    i personally don't really look forward to PB. it essentially spells "the end" of content, and will make huge waves on the economy.

    a new tier of end game weapons and MW30 can potentially trivialize and devalue other content. unless timeless weapons are carefully implemented, they, combined with MW30 and echo, will bring a huge boost to ranges overall, which could tank the prices of other drops, such as HT, because of the increased HT runs (runs being quicker due to higher ranges)

    this is also a conundrum unto itself because it funnels the economy into PB and those who can afford to run it/are eq for it, again trivializing other ways to make money (ht/mw20/gen30/TT), and just reinforces PB runs.
    but, at this point, PB becomes the higher moneymaker, and just shifts the meta to run PB, which is more difficult than HT. HP washing standards will likely be raised, range requirements, and time investments as well, so more new chars, starting over in a possibly devalued economy.

    its kinda why i proposed the HW10 idea. to add a fresh new sb with interesting qol improvements for serious bossers, possibly at von leon, or another superboss before PB (HT, grampa balrog, the boss, etc)

    PB will be nerfed likely in some way, so this isn't a guaranteed outcome, but in essence, that's why I'm not so hot for PB. lots of ideas and discussion about timeless weapons in other threads. hoping they are highlevel requirement mostly, to offset the early minmaxers in the economy, and ive also floated the idea of them requiring energy, or dulling over time, losing att, to create a meso sink, and that way they wont always be at optimal w. att (to possibly offset their being OP to the current meta)

    i think folks are just bored and dont consider the effects of pb suddenly being in the server.

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    as for new characters... well, id love to see arans and evans. but for fresh new fun i did just make a big thread that would offer new possible routes for existing classes, shameless link here (hope you enjoy it, i had a lot of fun crafting it, and i will be editing it probably forever)
     
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    Thanks for sharing your opinion on PB! That's really interesting, and maybe even a bit frightening, but I'm sure that MapleRoyals could persist after PB, lol. There's tons of content to work with that the devs could retro-fit onto the server.

    I poked around your thread a bit last night, and I really enjoyed your ideas! I was thinking about doing a write-up for a custom class one day, just as a thought exercise, so keep an eye out :)
     
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    Aran was cool. after that I quit GMS so... don't know. the names mentioned here terrified me. don't do that lol
     
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    well, you see... if this server had new classes, it would ruin almost every single thing about the nostalgic gameplay of it.
    of course, not every class that would have been added would cause alot of damage to the gameplay, but generally, the idea isnt even reasonable / acceptable to even think about.
    there's no intention to do so, and it would never happen unless there's a very good reason to do so.
    if you want new classes, play the official maple server now, they have 40+ classes.
    and generally i think not many, if at all, nostalgic pre-bb private servers have that many classes. the most have are mostly aran, evan, cygnus knights, and thats it. anything mercedes and higher probably belongs to post-bb only universe.
     
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    Just wait for 20 or more years or so, soon everyone will be like "Damn, I remember this one class called Kanna where I used to make Kishin mules to grind" then we can call them "nostalgic"
     

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