We all know that Ranged is pretty crappy at LHC. I was wondering if it’s possible to allow NinjaStorm to be used to push the mobs in LHC. I understand that the mobs in LHC are boss mobs and wouldn’t be affected by Shadow Web and Venom Star (both are understandable), but allowing NLs to Ninja Storm at least gives them an edge to clump the mobs around. Personally I would like to think that Shadow Web would be a good skill for NLs to use in the sense that it creates variety to gameplay. More FJ, more webbing, more NS-ing and less mindless TT, and it will give the rest of the melee party members easier to kill the mobs, serving as some kind of support. What do you guys think?
If this is made then the chao and ephenia spawns should work too. edit: I would suppose dragon breath included.
There was some small discussion in Show HP Bar of LHC mobs which involved enabling mob specific characteristics for boss class monsters. From Matt and Joel's responses, it seems to me that there is no middle ground. That is, to enable Ninja Storm in LHC means to enable Ninja Storm for all boss class monsters. Although I could be incorrect. Having run LHC for a bit now, I've been constantly thinking of changes for ranged classes that might give them something to contribute. I've come to the small conclusion that you can always welcome a BM or MM into your party with 5 other melee without feeling a loss (SE, Hamstring). I don't know anything about how Corsair does in LHC. To get to my point, there is absolutely zero reason to recruit a NL into your LHC group. In fact it goes completely the other way; you definitely do not want a NL in your LHC group (imo, this goes beyond a "mentality".) Whether or not this should be the way it is... well I don't know. So onto your suggestion. If it's possible, I think Ninja Storm should be allowable. In the early days of LHC I had joined parties with NLs, and the one thing I noticed is that when they stand on the outside, a mob may spawn to their side which will both disrupt their attacking and cause problems rushing the mob (using magnet or otherwise). I suppose this is also a problem for other ranged classes, but even BM Power KB and Dragon Breath do not work, so I'm at a loss here. As for Shadow Web, that should not be allowed in LHC, as I'm confident it would be quite overpowered and trivialize the activity almost entirely. I would need to test such a thing to come to a fair conclusion. A small note: you mentioned using TT, but I'm fairly confident that, no matter the strategy your party employs, you want to use Avenger a vast majority of the time.
does ninja ambush count towards active attacking? if so, just use max NA+TT? if not, it still might be helpful to use NA+Avenger also maybe buff ninja ambush. *cough* lower cast delay, ignore x amount of w.def, ignore def buffs, factors sharp eyes, etc. nothing major
I actually did some small tests with NA (take this with a grain of salt though), but the delay is so long and the damage is so negligible that your time is better off just casting another attack. I'd gladly eat my words if that's not the case.
indeed the delay is the biggest hurdle, its obsolete if youre trying to add it in a rotation of 4th job skills. i edited my post a moment ago talking about that. imo, NA deserves a sliiiight buff, and this would help NL out there I'm sure
Thanks for the heads up! @nutleafcity Never knew Avenger does more DPS. LF> NS to be useful in LHC please, @Staff , please consider it!
dont think i will accept NL even if ninja storm is usable, they can go HT =x leave the spots for poor warriors plz
https://royals.ms/forum/threads/lhc-skills-ninja-storm-venomous-star.196251/#post-1156063 thanks @nutleafcity for sharing that thread. Now the link above is a thread I just made giving my personal feedback on LHC as a nightlord. I think we do need ninja storm and venomous star to work there. Staff, please consider that change!
