Update on Soul Arrow

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My inventory is full of junks and shites, pet food, scrolls, and whatever
I still don't have an issue buying arrows with pocket change and have plenty of room for gach


I think I will quit the game

 

TBH, even with junks and stuff in my invent, I still have room for more



I think I'm also suppose to quit or something

 

Royals be like: we gave you 10 w. att and made the game less convenient for you. why are you unhappy? were we wrong to assume that w. att is the only thing that players care about?

If we simply increase the max arrow stack to 10000 and revert soul arrow to its original state, I don't think anyone would be upset. Right now we are a "nostalgic" MapleStory server that has altered an earlygame skill in a negatively impactful way and I am not happy with that. As a MM I think the blue arrow buff is nice, but the soul arrow change is almost purely negative. In fact, I often use up arrows faster when using soul arrow while hunting, and I dislike the added pressure to keep attacking constantly in order to not "waste" the SA duration. I'm pretty sure the only players who are happy with the change to SA are BMs who load up their entire inv with red arrows.

 

Or you can adjust the final attack as a reflective power, you are hitting with a hurricane and if they touch you, an arrow comes out as well as the snipe of the marksman, automatic to compensate for the lost damage, it can be applied to both archers if possible!

Although I am happy with the work done, Thanks to you and your great work I am happy again, in this Maple that makes me remember when I was 14 years old.

 

Imagine using soul arrow before the buff to not get a bonus 4 weapon attack for cheap. Now it's a cheap 10 attack bonus ez. Used to always have 48 stacks of arrows on my BM at all times. Even 1.5 hour HT would only use 8 stacks.

 

We are here to discuss the soul arrow rework, not the red arrow buff. Please do not make the mistake of thinking that those two things are intrinsically connected. It is possible (and in fact rather easy) to maintain the positives while eliminating the negatives.

If inventory space was the main reason why red arrows were unpopular, increasing the arrow stack size solves the problem easily. The current soul arrow is an inferior solution to the same problem. It is a less effective meso sink and it forces archers to refresh buffs more often, which no one likes.

 

Yes, let me reiterate. soul arrow is a useless buff imo however less useless than before. Still won't use it as it breaks away from using hurricane just as it did before. Soul arrow allowing the user to retain the attack instead of not is an overall buff. What I am saying here is that if you were end game and wanting to optimize dps you weren't using soul arrow to begin with because it didn't allow for optimal damage however now on bosses that interrupt hurricane or mobs where you actively have to recast hurricane it is an overall increase and buff to soul arrow. This is just coming down to a playstyle difference issue between those who never had arrows, and subsequently now have USE space issues, and those who always stocked arrows and didn't use the buff itself.

Also to say that the arrow buff and the soul arrow changes aren't really connected I feel like is a huge underplay as the arrows attack is directly correlated to the increase in damage that soul arrow users received.

 

But you could just choose not to use soul arrow and experience that same increase in damage.

That aside, you raise a good point: someone who is only concerned with optimal DPS wouldn't be using soul arrow anyways. In this way, we could consider the current soul arrow an unhappy medium, a botched compromise. Minmaxers who spend all their time bossing wouldn't use it because they lose DPS due to recast time (though it's true that the change doesn't hurt them). And as we've seen, casual players hate it because it's now more annoying to do anything except killing bosses. It boggles my mind why anyone is supporting this.

 

Except it's a buff for the min maxers also because there is now more situations where soul arrow is useful to min maxers than there was before.

 

...which is still not as good letting them carry large quantities of arrows without giving up as much inventory space.

 

Hi guys.

I just noticed this thread moved into accepted section, and the staff released a new patch yesterday. However there is nothing in the patchnote regarding Soul Arrow. So did the new patch change anything ?

I know I could check by myself, but for a short period of time, my internet isn't working well. So if you have any feedbacks about the new patch, let me know please.

 

Sure, I'll wait for your answer. Thanks in advance.

 

Thanks for making it clearer. I'll stay tuned then !

 

hope it's a good thing as many (including me) fix the admin and developer caused the skill change

 

thread is tl;dr so sorry if this has been mentioned, but...
Has the idea of a Terraria-style "chance to not consume ammo" buff been considered? What if soul arrow just gave you something like an 80% chance to not actually consume the arrow on each shot? Essentially makes each stack of 2000 arrows become 10000 arrows, still has the thematic flavor of "arrows from nowhere", still lets you keep the attack buff. Not sure if this is technically possible but I think it could be a good version.
Even less likely to be technically possible, but if it had a scaling factor based on arrow quality, like base arrows 100% chance to not be used, bronze 95%, steel 90%, diamond 80%, or something like that. Still lets you go around with no arrows at all if you want, but makes high-end arrow management a small factor.


edit: JK went back and read thread. I'm sorry but HOW are people such babies about this? It's like your mom saying you have to tie your own shoes now and everyone has just given up and decided to never go outside again? Get over it! Spending literally 30 seconds a day buying some arrows is not ruining the "chill" playstyle of your character.