Should MapleRoyals add new classes?

Why do you think the implementation of new classes would ruin everything about the nostalgic gameplay of Royals?

The re-balancing of the explorer classes brought some nice QoL changes, and I think they feel like authentic updates to the game. They were made very carefully, and they helped breathe some new life into MS without disrupting the sort of gameplay patterns that we expect from an old-school server. In a very rote sense, re-balancing isn't nostalgic, because it involves changing the game from what it originally was. However, I think it's clear that re-balancing the explorers was good for the server: it doesn't break the nostalgia, it encourages class diversity, and it makes playing certain classes more fun. In fact, these changes enhance the game so that it feels like the game that we want to remember playing back in the early 2000s.

That said, I think that reducing the appeal of Royals and MS in general to nostalgia is kind of silly. It was a fun game back in 2007, and it's a fun game now. The art is still beautiful, movement is still clean, character and gear progression are still monumentally satisfying.

For me, the problem with the post-Big Bang/modern private servers is that Nexon forgot how to maintain this feeling as they scrambled to continue monetizing their game. The iconic art style started to change. Character movement and abilities became a lot simpler, with more passives and more flashjumps, leading to a relatively homogenized experience across classes. Gear progression got a bit weirder and more P2W with cubes, stars, and whatever else they've got going on now. The leveling process got boring and lonely, with fewer party quests, more solo bosses, and more kill-everything-on-the-map abilities. As a huge fan of the server, I would never want anything like this to happen to Royals. I just don't necessarily think that adding new classes has to lead the server down this path.

The original intention of this thread was to discuss changes of this nature as they pertain to expanding our roster of classes. Namely, class additions that would not hinder MS's signature art style, homogenize gameplay experiences across classes, or mess with the current character progression system that we all know and love (e.g. grinding, bossing, leeching, scrolling, merching, etc.). Very few people have meaningfully addressed this idea in their replies, so I clearly miscommunicated my original point. I want to know what people think, but I also want to know why people think whatever they think.

Terribly sorry though, I didn't mean to cause you harm by thinking an unreasonable/unacceptable thought.

 

yes I think that an Angelic Buster and Pathfinder could really be fun @ Royals

 

Why? What niches do you think Angelic Buster/Pathfinder would fill in MapleRoyals? How might we retro-fit them to an old school server?

 

old school server?
Royals is everything but an old school server

 

well, you see... the reality is this would never happen even if you prove to everyone why your idea is good and why it would be benficial.
if they had an intention to do so, it would have happened a long time ago. This server exists since 2013, if i'm not wrong. i know this by looking at old forum posts. and looking at previous history of suggestions / feedback from players, they never explicitly stated they would consider adding new classes.
so your idea is just nothing more than discussing it, its not gonna happen actually.
but generally, your idea doesnt prove enough why or how it would be that beneficial as you claim it would be. and i think you are better off bringing up a discussion on the forums that would actually lead to something actually happening or being considered, and something most players would agree with you it would be a positive / beneficial addition.
i'm not saying every single player must agree or accept, but if most of them agree or accept, there's a chance it could be added. but even then, the server admins / GM's dont have to add it, or add it immediately. they can do whatever they want and take their time, and put things up in the priority as they want.
the way it sounds basically, is like you are trying to force your idea into reality without checking to see if most other players agree with this idea, and without checking if there's a chance it would actually happen.
that's what i dont understand... you came with this idea with the thought in mind of it actually happening, or only for the intention of discussing it only?
whatever the case is, it sounds very stupid and unrealistic to me, im sorry to say.

 

Lol, I'm not trying to force anything into reality. How do you think I'd even do that? This was just for the sake of discussion. I understand why we're not going to get new classes on MapleRoyals, but I like talking about game design and what makes games fun to play. Part of the fun of MS is the class system, so I just wanted to talk about the class system with other people on the forum.

Uh, sorry. Then how would you retro-fit those classes into whatever sort of server you think Royals is? I'm not trying to bust your chops, I'm just interested in why you think it would be cool to add Angelic Buster or Pathfinder. I actually don't know anything about either class, as I've been away from the official MS servers for a long time. For example, in my original post, I brought up Evan/Battle Mage because they could help fill out the boss-oriented mage niche a bit. I recently saw a thread with some other people requesting buffs to F/P and I/L Archmages so that they'd be a bit more viable to bring into boss runs, so clearly there's a vague interest in something like this.

 

well, i understand what your intentions are/were, but if you care so much about classes or seeing new classes, you should've probably discussed this on a post-bb server, like official servers, and if you want more classes generally, even if its not gonna happen here ever, you can go play on a post-bb private server or official server. i'm just curious why you are here if thats what you care about or want to see?
I dont see a point in discussing new classes if it wont happen here. Really, whats the point?
if its to prove something, i dont see what there is to prove here.
by the way, the thread's title kind of implies you're suggesting to add new classes to this server. maybe some people took it seriously.
"Should mapleroyals add new classes?" sounds like suggesting to do so, not only intending to discuss it.

 

Well, I decided to post here, because Royals is the only MS server that I play on, and it's the only server that I'm interested in playing on. You seem confused by this, because you've already replied here a few times with something like 'well, if you want new classes so badly, go play/post on another server.'

Like I said here, the reason that I'm not playing on modern MS servers with more character classes available is that other features are more important to me than having a larger roster of classes. Namely: Royals has a better community, better character progression, better balance, and better feel (i.e. in terms of controls, art cohesion, etc.) than any other server that I'm aware of. That's all far more important than adding new character classes, because even having 100 classes wouldn't matter if MS wasn't fun in the first place. This is exactly the case with modern servers: they have more classes, but the game is less fun, so it's no longer worth playing to me. I'm well-aware that there's plenty to do with the 12 classes that we've already got.

The point of discussing the possibility of new classes is that it's fun for me, and I thought that others on the Royals forums might think so too. I'm curious about whether people think it would be possible to introduce a new class that wouldn't disrupt the feel of Royals. It's just a thought exercise. I guess the overarching point of my interest is that I like trying to figure out what makes games fun, and I'd like other people to think about this stuff too so that we can play better games. I'm not trying to make a serious appeal to the Royals developers as to what they should do with their version of Maplestory, which they're already doing a great job with.

You're right though. The title is definitely a bit misleading, but that wasn't my intention. That's why I added the thread to the General Discussion section of the forums instead of Suggestions.

 

well, the first thing other people read is the thread's title, so by the title alone someone could judge what this is about and think, "this is absurd / crazy", only by the title, and in that case, you cant blame them if you are the one who choosed that confusing title. and its okay to judge just by the title, because thats how things work and its acceptable most of the time. so just watch what you write there, is all i can say, lol.
just for the discussion only, as we said, we're only discussing it... if there were new classes in mapleroyals, the ones that would fit are aran, evan, cygnus knights and thats all. because the classes after mercedes and higher, have skills that doesnt belong in a pre-bb world.
even evan to some extent has that, but it might have been more tolerable or acceptable than mercedes or phantom, for example.
i'd say if there was a server which has these newer classes but without cubes, without potential, without star enhancement, without a solo- focused gameplay like it is on the official servers now, and so on, maybe such thing would have been acceptable for pre-bb players, but even then i wouldnt be so sure, just saying, it could have been, maybe.
oh and, i forgot dual blade, too. but dual blades were released when potential was released, i think, so, the question is how would you add classes like these without adding the features which ruined the game for pre-bb players.

 

dude you even reply exactly like him

 

i dont know what you're talking about. starting a message in a similar way like someone else doesnt make me that person, lol.
the same goes for cash shop clothes and other things like that.
and anyway, its annoying / disrupting a discussion if you reply about it out of nowhere.