The worst buccaneer guide

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    is wiggle recruiting now?
     
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    Damn Danel. Remember you tried to sell me a 20 att scg for a pack of skittles? Good times.
     
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    Haven't spoken to anyone from the Royals community in over a year now, but some here are insinuating that Danel is an elitist. I guess this is purely anectodal, but that was not my experience when I played here a year ago. Danel and Rie brought me on my first Auf and numerous times after that when I was rocking a grand total of like 25-30atk gear - I could have easily been replaced by an SE mule but I wasn't. I contributed virtually nothing on those runs. I would hardly call that behavior elitist.
     
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    I'm going to respond to this properly via pm but to use Song's words - everyone has effectively lost in this conflict.

    I will be taking some time to reflect on events in recent days and how I could have personally managed the situation better. I do acknowledge that my personal experience of this whole situation has been overall poor in terms of risk and conflict mitigation, despite my perception that I have done my best under the circumstances.

    I want to thank everyone who has reached out to me and @Doo - including those who know us and those who don't. As you might have found out it has been a particularly challenging time and I am very grateful to you all for offering your support.
     
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    Thanks for sharing all these stories and let me know more about you guys ;)
     
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    First off, I’d like to begin by saying that the purpose of this post is to state my feelings and thoughts regarding the whole situation. I don’t seek to attack nor accuse anyone of anything. If I DO do it in the words to come, I do apologise because it is indeed difficult to cross-examine yourself without finding any biases as well as the wrong things being said. Some people have indicated that the Cloudy incident shouldn’t be brought up because it occurred a year ago and therefore it has no temporal relevance to the current situation at hand. So, I guess this is where I come in as a Wrath member to comment on the issue (since the bans of the Wrath members are one of the most recent events to transpire and also the catalyst to this whole situation). However, I would like to also state that I am not speaking on the behalf of Wrath, but simply as someone who is closely tied to both Wrath and Kenny.

    For context, I’ll start off by saying that it was me who shared the photos. Yes, Kenny showed me the leaked photo in complete confidentiality because it was *MY* friends who were getting banned. He showed it to me simply just to show it and he showed nobody else. I took it upon myself without Kenny’s knowledge to share it to Wrath because of your reaction to it. Of course, he was upset that I did this without his knowledge, however we made amends and I apologised for it and we moved on. I wasn’t angry at the fact that you banned them. I was angry at the fact that you found the whole ordeal humorous and funny. Don’t deny this. The leaked photo shows you laughing at them getting banned and frankly, I find this vile and sickening. I almost want to say that it’s borderline sadistic. But that’s not the point of this reply. The point of this reply is to explain the hurt and the feeling of discomfort that I have felt through past and current events that have transpired. I had already known you were an intense reporter regarding RWTers and other matters of the kind when you came out with your reply to bom6. When a dear Wrath member of mine was banned back in December 2021, of course I was upset. But I was even more upset to know that you were the one who had harvested the information from the Wrath Discord to get him banned. You and I aren’t friends but merely acquaintances due to our ties to the Cloudy members, so it shocked me when I found out that it was you who had pulled the trigger to get the said Wrath member banned. A month later, you commented on my selling thread regarding my Dark Katte and if I could be honest, I felt extremely worried and anxious that you had commented on it for the sole purpose of tracking my transactions. Because that is what you do, right? You report people for RWT and you’re also open about it. However, I refuse to accuse you of having this intention because it is nothing more than just an assumption that was made on the grounds that you report people. It is also something without proof either, so I will reiterate that these are just my thoughts and feelings. I will say, though, that I have nothing to worry about, but it was just that initial sense of fear and worry that I had felt combined with the ban of my friend which was enough to set me off thus leading me to have those thoughts.

    I play this game for the sake of nostalgia and also to socialise. I do not believe that we built the community this way because ultimately, it is the players who actively play that determine what type of community that we have. I just don’t think that it’s right that we should play in fear and for god’s sake, let’s just enjoy the content that we are given without doing this kind of shit to each other.
     
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    I want to comment on the discord thing you both mentioned just to clarify:
    1. Ploopie - my only issue with Ploopie was RWT, I didn't know about him being a ban evader, and RWT is what he was banned for.
    It might surprise you, but I'm not the only one who looked into Ploopie and I was not the one who made the connection between Ploopie and Aaron.
    That initial connection came from someone else, and the screenshots were not taken and not requested by me, as this had nothing to contribute to my report that was already dealt with at this point.
    I did not dig in your discord, but yes I was sent screenshots after the fact by the person who made that connection (again, never asked for them - as Ploopie's case was settled to me after the RWT ban).
    The screenshot you've seen of me telling a certain somebody to LOOK in Wrath discord if he needs proof it's true, was way after the fact and after Ploopie was banned, and you can easily confirm that with him.
    Little did I know that Ploopie infact did not RWT but instead ban evaded, and given his old gear set while your guild knowing all that.

    2. Bom6/7 - since there was Discord mentioned here too, I will just clarify that I had absolutely nothing to do with this report.
    A person who was tired with bom flexing his RWTed gear gathered evidence, and since it was sensitive to him he asked me to file the report for him.
    I did not add anything of my own, and the screenshots of private chats and not guild discords were provided to me.

    About your dark katte - I was genuinely interested in this item, I even had a buying thread: https://royals.ms/forum/threads/b-12-13-luk-clean-red-dark-katte.199586/
    Sorry if I spooked you, but when it comes to my reports I always try to do my work behind the scenes, even tho I sometimes end up saying publicly that I reported a certain person.

    For the Cloudy, elitism and gender stuff:
    I'm not going to reply to that anymore, because as I clarified already
    1) I'm not an elitist and I don't owe you any explanation about who I choose to run with - this is just petty
    2) The Cloudy thing was concluded a year ago and it was a personal conflict more than anything, this is unrelated.
    If you want to discuss what happened in wiggle, sure - as this is relevant to the subject.
    @ZJZJ summed it nicely:
    3) I already explained that I got absolutely 0 benefits from being a female, if anything - the other way around.
    And as I said - I don't care to explain any further.

    Wiggle:
    If you want to know where you stalking girls instagrams came from:
    That is actually something I heard back in Cloudy when I was still running daily HT with you.
    They disliked you back then to say the least and their reasoning was that you (together with others from guild Haiku) were sitting together stalking girls on instagram and rating them.
    I have no proof that you actually did that and I only said it once to that person who sent you the SS, never to anyone else or mentioned it again.
    Yes, it's not a fact and could be wrong - but I didn't make it up and it's not something that I widely spread.

    About all the other stuff you wrote:
    I do have DMs of people annoyed by you and females uncomfortable around you - and that is a fact.
    I will not reveal any screenshots or call anyone by name as I don't wish to break Wiggle's rules and expose my friends, but as I said - this was very much a reality, call it a lie all you want.

    Despite all that, I was perfectly fine with co-existing in the guild and I never talked to you or provoked you, yet you kept coming back with your jokes and being unpleasant to deal with.
    Alot of the information you got, as I mentioned, was a result of miscommunication - and you can DM Doo about it who will tell you the same.

    As I said:
    It comes down to:
    1) You want to have me kicked from Wiggle, which won't happen since they're definitely not on the same page as you, despite deciding to stay out of this thread.
    2) You want my existing friends to look at me in a different way - which I'm also not sure if you succeeded with but I feel like that's irrelevant to your case.

    We will not agree about anything, you can either agree to disagree or continue trying to get me kicked from Wiggle to no avail - that's up to you.
     
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    Wtf is all this? I clicked here expecting to get some bad advice for my bucc :adminrawr:
    Report thread for being misleading
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    that makes it the worst bucc guide ~f18
     
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    pretty much why lots of people quit :O
     
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    The indirect jokes you made at donn1e's expense was just pure bullying, ngl. The thing is you both had disdain for one another from the beginning so anything one party does, the other would scrutinize it and call foul whenever he can. And then you guys got in the same guild but instead of talking it out and settling your differences, you both let the seeds of discord fester within yourselves which lead to the current situation you guys are in. This is a personal dispute between you and donn1e, and should have stayed private.

    I'm not saying donn1e is a saint or w/e, sure, i agree the gloating after getting rwters banned seems excessive and the way she/he hunts down rwters might be overzealous at times so it's totally understandable on why you would hate such behavior because i'm not a fan of it too, but is it really relevant to the reason why you got kicked? I had an issue with an individual in a past incident (he got a lot of people banned and one of them was my guildmate so i most definitely know how you feel in that regard), but despite being in a conflict with him at that time, i felt that it was wrong and inappropriate to use that as a tool to villainize him. To me this amidst other stuff you mentioned just feels like a petty attempt to take revenge and by creating a public thread with a personal vendetta like that, you are just inciting unnecessary hate against donn1e from the community and inviting the vultures (players donn1e got banned) to attack donn1e which was why i felt the thread should be deleted in the first place.

    If the point of this thread was to have donn1e expelled from wiggle, why couldn't it be done so privately?
     
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    The enjoyment and evilness of finding happiness and joy out of collecting people's data to get them banned is disturbing
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    "tim answering my reports!" Wow im a great person! WOW THE GOD TIM HAS ANSWERED MY CALL! I love timk! its my personal agenda to ban every wrath member!!!
    So far from what I am hearing the things Donn1e are saying is not true and filtered with lies
     
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    the sexual tension in here is almost as good as the romantic tension between Kanye and Pete
     
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    Okay, chill with the one line zingers. I initially left them in to cut the tension, but I'm going to just delete them from now on.
     
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    this entire thread is just ppl getting mad about their guildies/friends being witchhunted bc they rwt. so maybe dont rwt?
     
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    The Best Thing I Did in my Life is to take a self ban for 15day
    and forget this Mushroom Game for a while kek
     
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    This doesn't justify the way I acted this day (which is probably the most extreme to date), but there is context that is important:
    - By the time of this screenshot, Tim was absent for over 2 months, Auf scrolls were above 460m, CS/WS 550m and RWTers going crazy with people like HurriHurri and GEOXX finishing Auf helms left and right.
    - Wrath:
    I did not have any personal vendetta against Wrath as a guild, they just happened to have a lot of people RWTing between Manila, Koret, 2xnv and a person ban evading with the help and knowledge of the guild members in Ploopie.
    Yes, I was happy when it happened because I almost reached a breaking point when it came to trying to finish a helmet in this market - and seeing Tim back was a huge relief.

    Am I proud of that? no.
    Do I always act like that? no. I also said in my original post that this behavior is something that I'm not proud of and will try to change going forward.

    I would like to know what kind of lies I said and what did not make sense to you in my comments instead of making that general comment.
     
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    I mean you guys are doing a good job at making an argument. Idk who's right.

    But, I think it's better to not care so much about this game. Playing casually is okay.

    Guild A this, Guild B that, Player this Player that. High att gear this. Well, who really cares in the end? This game is not healthy to have that min-max attitude toward. Imo it's healthy to focus on more rewarding investments to focus this much passion on IMO.
     
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    Imagine people fight with some pixels and reputation In a videogame lol
     
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    Yes I do agree with your statement on RWTers being in the market over the past 2 months. That guy BlueSwitch 100% rwt said he had 70+wa gear in 3 months. I have heard GEOXX before he is voting on multiple accounts probably selling a boat load of APRs. You have all this information about these people relating to RWT this data coming from guild discords is that true? Harvesting information about Kene's personal life is that true? Why do you find pleasure in reporting these players? Did you have solid evidence to back up those claims or are you just reporting them based off of hypothetical claims? If I was your close friend would you report me too? Kene has more evidence than you it seems your statements are not backed up by evidence so thats why I have stated that in the previous comment
     
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