The worst buccaneer guide

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  1. Donn1e
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    To answer all your questions:

    No, refer to:

    Thats something I've never done and Kenny never claimed I've done that too! I never harvested information about anyone's private life.
    The whole "stalking" part was one /find dropped.

    Farming constantly and trying to compete with RWTers is a toxic experience.
    Economy was terrible and no action was being taken, and I just contantly had to compete for scrolls with people who swipe their credit card.

    Yes, very solid.
    Feel free to DM me for specific examples if you wish, I think you'll be surprised.

    No, refer to:
    The reason Kenny will have more evidence than me (and it will stay that way), is becuase he just leaked all his discord DMs from our mutual friends and guildies without anyone's consent.
    I'm not willing to do that and I think the things I claim are logical and you can clearly see there are differences between how we both viewed certain events, and that many of the things Kenny mentioned were opinions and not facts. (Talking to friends who just say their opinion about me)
     
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    Just so we're clear, alternate accounts are against forum rules. We understand that players would like to preserve their anonymity, but note that admins have been notified of suspected duplicate accounts, and there is a high chance that these accounts will be merged to the main account.
     
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    If anyone is afraid of any backlash from posting can feel free to dm me n i can post on ur behalf so we can have more healthy discussion :)

    Edit: can dm me on discord on for more anonymity GLoD#1769
     
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    This was clearly done with the intention of preserving my anonymity. I've also owned up numerous times now that I am doing this because I am a coward and don't want to have my main account exposed. Clearly, as you can see, those who are going up against these people are being targeted both in-game and offline.

    If you and the admins intend to merge, please just remove this account and all its posts.

    I've also shown in the whole thread that I did not make this alt account to meme or use any vulgar language to attack either sides maliciously. I presented my opinions whereby others with reputations to hold cannot do so / do not feel safe doing so.

    Of course those who are against my opinions would request for my accounts to be merged. They want to find out who I am.
    If it is violating rules, then I would request that the account and its posts be deleted, which will serve the same purpose of eliminating posts posted on duplicate accounts. Merging it will lead me to being personally attacked for standing up for someone who I believe was bullied in the community.
     
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    As a neutral third party and a previous forum janitor, I'll address this. I agree that you made a duplicate forum account with the intention of preserving your anonymity. But this anonymity has also clearly encouraged toxicity without accountability, and this has clearly been true in this case (as well as in previous cases based on my personal experience). At the end of the day, your action nevertheless violates the forum rules. And I am truthfully confused as to why your account has been allowed to remain. It should also be noted that you're not the only player to create a duplicate account and comment on this thread, as others have done so as well--some purely to flame and nothing else. It's just that no one else has really seen those posts thanks to the vigilance of our Community Managers.

    To be clear, you did more than share your side of the story. You have made a continuous effort to actively dismiss their argument and antagonize their personhood. You even went so far as to call their actions disgusting. And whether their actions truly were disgusting is besides the point. The undeniable fact is that you're personally attacking this player, and the only reason the majority of other players aren't calling you out is because they either agree with you or they just find all of this funny. At least have the integrity to acknowledge your own actions, because it's disingenuous to claim all this fear of targeted retaliation when that is literally what you've been doing this entire time. Personally, I would've nuked and banned your duplicate forum account the very second I saw your first post on GIOYC. And let's not get it twisted, this has nothing to do with Staff members supporting or censoring certain members of the community based on their personal biases as they have been accused of multiple times. I guarantee you that no one there actually cares about your petty interpersonal drama. This simply has to do with the fact that Staff members have an obligation to uphold and enforce the forum rules--which clearly exist for a reason.

    As a final note, I feel the need to emphasize again that I have no stake in this matter. I have never had a conversation with any of you involved in this ordeal. Personally, I think all of you are shitty people. And if anyone, I feel most sorry for our Community Managers who have to clean up after this bullshit.
     
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    Based on all the evidence that's been provided, as well as all the past anecdotes from people who have come forward, I believe the original poster was harassed and bullied when he played this game. Based on the evidence here, I believe he was slandered, has taken all the courage he had (and risking all the friendships he's built) to come forward.

    As someone who sees that, I also recognize that there are significant repercussions to come forward on your main account to voice these opinions.

    I do believe celebrating others' friends being banned for RWT is disgusting. That is not a personal attack to say Donn1e is disgusting, but to say the action is. I do believe you should follow game rules, but it is a social game, and people do make meaningful friendships. Being permanently banned from the game means a lot of these relationships end. This is not to endorse RWT. This is not to say "don't report RWT". But celebrating others' friends not being able to play the game anymore is not necessary.

    I've asked for my account to be deleted or banned as necessary. Merging the two accounts after waiting over a dozen posts serves no other / better purpose aside from revealing who I am and setting me up to be targeted.
     
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    As unfair as it is to expose TteokBokki for telling your story out of fear of repurcussions, it is also unfair to Danel to not know who he/she is dealing with. If we wish to remain diplomatic, we should be speaking out as we are regardless of consequences.
    I say this as an outsider, with no relation to anyone in the thread.
     
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    I understand people want to know who this is for either context or for drama. But I don't think my identity is relevant, because I haven't offered any evidence on either side, and have only been referring to what's been said in the thread.

    I stand by my statement that I believe the OP was harassed and bullied when he played this game. Based on the evidence here, I believe he was slandered and risked all to come forward.

    I don't have the courage that the OP has to come forward on a main account, thus I've stated since the very beginning, that this is posted on an anonymous account.

    If the discussion is unfair, the community managers can ban or delete the account
    . Merging the two after waiting a dozen messages fuels targeted bullying. What is the purpose of it, if not for me to voice my concerns and opinions, only to be targeted in game and in the community shortly after?
     
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    Shouldn't the blacklist thread be used in situations where a player has a negative interaction with another person or group that may not be reportable? This is a tough call to make, but I think it should be reverted. Do we really want a new thread for each person's personal grievances?
     
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    I dont think it should. Currently at 5 pages this thread would've hijacked the blacklist. It could be posted there but theres no obligation to post about such matters there its only for convenience.
     
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    last post im making then im done replying, ill even give donn1e the final word if they want by not closing the thread. I dont want to stress the mods any longer by a situation that theyre not involved in as most of these post are just going around in circles at this point. I would rather have my thread up to display the actions that they’ve done rather than turn this into a flame battle so it gets deleted.

    anyone can read my thread and come to the conclusion themselves. I have not convinced anyone to get on my side. I have not told anyone to come out and say their story, they’ve all done so with their free will. I have not even liked the post of people that support me. I don’t want to make this a post about convicning people of the things donn1e has done. This is a post of all facts that they have done.

    everything that they have said is a lie and almost everything that is said by them can be debunked by pure logic nevertheless my pile of screenshots.

    Claims i annoy people in wiggle and that im not self aware that im making people uncomfortable when i have not came into wiggles fm channel for 6 months due to conflicts with suzan, i purposely ignore that area for her sake. I also barely log on and when i do i dont talk unless someone starts a conversations. I cannot ‘troll’ alone and it makes no sense that i keep this behavior if no one is responding to me but they do and thats why i keep talking that way in alliance chat.

    Funny how i have a decent chunk of wiggle members in my dms literally telling “idk what danel is even talking about”. im not sure if its me thats not self aware or you but your ‘friends’ might not be who they think they are, they’re just afraid to go against you because this is what you do (the whole targeting thing).

    going back to the “ill give u 5 ws for pics”. Like did you really just call me creepy and a rwt in the same sentence? you report rwt and pry into areas that you’re not welcomed in to ban people and you didnt take a screenshot of me saying that to perma ban me when you personally dislike me? You all still believe this?

    claims i harras females but not a single female has stood up, meanwhile multiple people have stood up about claims i made about you. Just think about it guys why am i so bold to call out these girls if I knew i was harrasing anybody? It just takes 1 female to end my post and ruin credibility, however i know for a fact i dont so unless u manifest a ghost and convince it i harrased it then i got nothing to worry about. Dont you all think that if i did actually harass a female that i would dare make this thread for even the RISK that it might backfire on me?

    claims he doesnt want to show screenshots because it will reveal the identity of the people . So you’re being ‘accused’ by me and not a single friend can come out and defend you by giving consent? why is it over half the people in my post have told me they dont mind, what kind of friends are u making? or i know, another lie.

    i can see u scrambling trying to respond to every comment desperately trying to prove yourself and liking all the posts that support u. You cant debunk anything im saying so youre dragging the gender part out of my post because you know its a guarantee win for you to dock me assuming gender in 2022 but the majority can see right through this. I have over 20+ people agreeing in my dms that i dont even know, not to mention the wiggle members that i showed u

    Anyway I’m just defending myself and proving that, logically anything donne says makes no sense on top of him not backing anything up with screenshots. I thought I couldn’t get my message across at first but seeing how my dms are flooded with overwhelming amount of support and the likes and all the people that have said ‘danel has done this to me too and glad u spoke up’ has already made me feel like i delivered the message well. a lot of people in the community will stop interacting with you, a lot of people got their justice in what you’ve done to them and theres nothing more to be said and nothing more i couldve asked for from all this
     
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    I answered all the questions I could with all honesty, I didn't make things up and I stand behind everything I said.
    The screenshots do exist, I do not have consent and my guild decided to remain out of it - so in a way I'm basically on my own, and I have no intention to get kicked, call me a liar all you want.
    It's very frustrating that I cannot post screenshots of the same people I supported, and the one thing I learned is - don't try to help other people when theyre in deep shit and expect the same in return.

    You learn things about certain friends - they will leak your SS, ask for your support when they need and won't support you back when you need them, it is what it is.

    This whole thread was basically taking out all my dirty laundry public on the forum - which I believe should've never been done.
    I don't think anyone in this community would like someone to dig in their past and post every single fight they had on the forum (in a very one-sided way too).
    I also do not believe that a thread that is targeting a person and revolves around personal drama should've stayed on the forum - and for that I definitely fault staff.
    None of it was anyone's business.

    I guess the thread will just remain here as it is for everyone to see, without me being able to properly respond to certain allegations - as long as I want to stay in my guild that is.
    Have a good night.
     
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    I smell hypocrisy! Less than one week ago you literally made a thread about hackers and rwters turn into a thread about me dealing with a rwter and getting benefited from it (without knowing anything about it) back ur shit up dude. You didn’t know shit about how much I paid to the guy and yet you made all the noise, tried to make my trade to be reverted (KEKW) wanna know what, stop playing the victim, learn from your mistakes and be a better person. You’re looking like a clown blaming the staff, the one you should be blaming is yourself and my dms are flooded with how shitty you’re acting, no one is believing in this bullshit but you, would be smarter if u just kept quiet.
     
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    Word. Playing a game this intensely isn't healthy man, but again we all hoomans
     
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    You know what's ironic here? The claims of all these things expressed here by PO have came with screenshots as part of evidence. However all the claims of this being a LIE have only been "backed up" by words. :o
     
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    This by far is one of the most informative and eye-opening threads in all of mapleroyals forums. Well done @KenE .
     
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    Can you really not see the difference between a post criticizing RWT rules and staff regarding illegit meso and a pure drama one?
    Stop trying to justify your own actions through me, I never broke any game rule and unlike you, I made my meso by my own.
     
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    This will be our only response on behalf of the Wiggle junior group. As we have already alluded to, we made a decision to remove Kenny from Wiggle in line with a recurrent breach of our guild rules. We have received multiple reports from at least 4 separate members with regards to this breach before this decision was made and it has been unanimously agreed on, prospectively and retrospectively by all current Wiggle Jrs. The context surrounding this decision does not influence the enactment of these rules.

    We as a group discourage making private conversations from discord or other platforms public and Danel has been asked not to do this. We feel that using these as ‘evidence’ to support personal attacks and their rebuttals is an immature act in itself and would represent a significant breach of trust.

    This is the only time we will be addressing this from a guild standpoint, we are not obliged to consider external opinion in making internal decisions and nor do we feel that we should.
    Have a good day.
     
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    Just giving my opinion as the ex forum janitor to the general public, not just to TteokBokki's main account

    Although the justification of TteokBokki does make sense in terms of trying to be anonymous to avoid being targeted (harassed/bullied)
    I do not agree with such a way of expressing his opinions

    1) one can use alternate forum accounts to flame others, it happened before

    2) supposed if everyone starts creating multiple forum accounts to be "anonymous", the forum will just end up in more flames, cause there's nothing to hold back the person from flaming others

    So please don't create multiple forum accounts just to "tell the truth", if you are afraid of being harassed upon sharing your own thoughts or the facts (without attacking others), just report the harassment content so that the Mods or GMs can take actions

    Allowing multiple forum accounts will create more issues such as impersonation

    :PBGasp: Sen so fierce
     
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    Theres far too many egos involved in this for me to like anyone involved. I play the game to have fun, make friends and to talk to people, not to do whatever the fucks happened in here. I cant relate to anyone or anything anyones said or done in this whole scenario. Its alien behavior to me. In my honest opinion yall need to step away from the game for some time. Just too much time spent worrying about what someone else is doing or saying. Who cares. They have no influence on your life at all outside of the game. This isnt directed at any person in particular, its directed at everyone involved, guilds and jrs included. Do better
     
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