Closed Progress on my second ban check

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    ALL Your Character Names: PsByte
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    Why do you think you got banned?: (Know) Account mix ups
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    How is the progress going on the recheck ?
    I haven't heard anything for awhile so i thought i would ask.
     
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    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/falsely-banned.204691/
    Your ban was already dealt with and you will not be unbanned.

    I'm really tired of you pushing this narrative that you are "falsely banned" when you are not. The last login timestamp for all of those accounts are literally the same as the accounts you claimed were yours, and to top it all off the username of one of those account's you claimed "wasn't yours" is literally your Forum Account name. Stop pretending you are innocent when you are not. Do not make anymore ban appeals or you will be issued warning points and/or possibly a Forum Account ban.

    Stop wasting our time when you are not innocent in the slightest.
    I want to help innocent players, not players like you who abuse that.
     
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    Prove it. Prove that i made all of those accounts and that i have voted on them.
     
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    As stated in your first ban appeal, you were banned for vote abuse, not account mix ups.

    Do you admit to any vote abuse occurring within the two accounts you stated in your first ban appeal? (Accounts containing tstfrog, Kiuritana and Yarest, PsByte, Stickfighter, Tarski)
     
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    Gotta love how you switch the attention to me. Prove to me that i made those 5 accounts and that i have voted on all of them more than once a day for whatever period of time that you would have to do that for it to be concidered major vote abuse. You guys say that you have the evidence, then show me.
     
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    We were giving you a final chance to admit to any vote abuse and gauge for any signs of remorse, sadly you have decided not to respond, therefore the decision to keep your accounts banned will remain.

    We have no obligation to provide evidence to you. Occasionally though, we may decide to, so here is some of the evidence relating to the vote abuse and linked accounts which you for whatever reason claim are not yours.

    Here you can see a list of accounts that were banned due to being related to accounts that were used for vote abuse, with clear evidence that the accounts have been used from the same computer and internet connection.
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    Here you can see a list of character names and account ID's from the two accounts you provided in your ban appeal:
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    And here is a section of the vote logs for those account ID's with timestamps, showing multiple and regular instances of double voting:
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    I still don't see Phaltz or Grass. And who are you kidding, you were gonna lift the ban ? hahahaha, if you were then why did you close the first ban appeal the right after you claiming that i owned all of those accounts, and my second appeal ?
    This one was almost closed.

    None of you tried to talk to me, so i don't know were you are getting the idea of you trying to get me to admit to whatever you claimed.

    i am done on this server anyways. I gaved you guys a second chance to prove yourselves, but no, still making more lies and you just trying to cover your butts. You are not the good guys nor are you good admins.
     
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    Phaltz and Grass are on the related accounts. Your previous ban appeals were closed because after you were informed of the reason for the ban, you never admitted nor denied any vote abuse, and instead were more interested to deny owning the linked accounts. And yes, depending on the circumstances and the explanation, admitting to the vote abuse can help your case and can potentially reduce the punishment. I even flat out gave you the opportunity to admit any wrongdoing in this thread and you completely ignored the question and again were more interested in denying owning the other accounts, which funnily enough did not have any involvement in the vote abuse, they were simply linked accounts, and the two accounts you mentioned in your original ban appeal were the ones involved. You did not give us a second chance, we gave you the second chance.
     
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    Yes. A little late but i think that it is the perfect timing for me atleaset. I am fairly confident that i would have lied about it if i did answer it the first time. Whilst i would have said yes, i would also have said something simular in the video on how most of them were on accident.
    Now after the frustration and i guess a little bit of the anger is gone plus that the memory of those accounts have comeback (mostly) i remember making those name but that is about it.

    I did doubble vote because i wanted to save up nx on my main ( tstfrog ) just so that i could buy alot of Gachapon tickets at the same time. I did doubble vote so that i could buy Gachas on my other account whilst saving up on my main. I know that isn't an excuse and i am not trying to make it sound like one, i am just telling you why.

    I didn't realise that i doubble voted that many times, 17 days ! holy shit!! if am not counting it wrong.
    I was so fixaded on those accounts that it was all i was thinking about. I had seen some ban apeals where someone was banned, but after the admin looked into it, they corrected it and mentioned that they had gotten mixed in with someone elses accounts. I thought i was in a simular situation, since i didn't recognize thos accounts. ( Grass and Phaltz ).

    I do find it strange and quite stupid that you closed my first ban apeal because i denied owning those accounts instead of admiting or denying that the vote abuse took place. If it had stayed open , my question and wonders about those accounts could perhaps have been answered and then i could have answered the question weather or not i did vote abuse. You should atleast give a warning or a headsup that you are getting of topic or the main focuse of that perticular ban apeal. The ban apeal as i heard was made so that players could debunk the claims put on them or prove their innocence. If that is the case then why make it into basicaly a minefield ? The small fishing line that you have to cross on it is so unnecesary. If someone genuinaly don't believe or remember that they own an account that they are accused of owning, then why should they be punished for it ? People do forget stuff. This is why i made two new accounts and why the two first one were still inactive.

    Now i can understand why deadlines excist on certain things, and a second chance is probably one of them. The problem here is that, atleast for me, is that in the in the heat of the moment i could say something that i didn't meant, just because of the presure or something like that. Most people would probably lie the first time as to see if they could some how trick you and possibly save their account that way. As i said i would probably have lied, but more so that it was accidental then on purpose. The otherway around can be said too, so instead of there is something people wish that they didn't say, some people or heck anyone can after awhile have thought of something that they could have said, weather it be the truth or just to add some details that could have helped their case.

    I know that you are gonna say that we can't wait for ever for an answer. Why not ? they are banned during the entire time and can't pose any sorts of danger to the game. with everything said above, a pause could be exactly what some people need to help them make the right decisions. Seeing as you only have one opportuniy to do so.

    Now the second chance as you call it, wasn't really well deleivered. First of all the timing of it was bad and secondly it didn't came across as a second chance thing, let alone a one time opportunity.
    It was poorly timed because i was fully expecting to be given some hopefully new informations about my ban, i forgot to mention in the decripton that i was asked by a community manager in the shoutbox if i wanted the admins to doubble check it.
    I thought that i had mentioned it in the descriptions, but clearly i didn't so my bad. I guess that the person didn't tell inform the admins about my request. This was after my 2 ban appeals were closed. Again i was fully hoping for some sort of clearup on this ban.
    When i saw that i had a new message i had a look and saw that it was from this ban appeal, i thought that i finally would get some answers to this whole thing. Instead iwas met with anger and acussations right away. Of course i asked for some proof of these claims, a pretty normal question when being accused of something.

    And this is where you step in to ask me/give me the second chance. Do you see how it looks and how poorly timed it was ?
    Not only that but it did look like a bait to me.



    Something like that is what i thought would have happened.

    For it too have looked more like a second chance offer, it could have looked something along the lines like this.



    In this way, it would have come across more of as if you were giving my a second chance, or atleast the chance too it. You would also have informed me that those accounts that i was so concerned about was not involved and that it was only the ones that i claimed to have owned.

    At that time i wasn't in the mood for answering people and just wanted answers myself. Forgive me that i was too distracted and focused on what she said and to see the proof that i owned those accounts.
    I was angry from the start of this thread and i left angry. A little bit later i did regret not answering you seeing as it might have given me a chance to get my account back. I was still a bit angry and thought of just leaving this behind me.

    The videos that i made about this server and the supposed anser to you Matt isn't anything you should take seriously. I make videos talking about things to let my frustrations out and to speak my words, kind of how people write down their feelings or talk to someone. I know i said that it was my answer to you, but after making it and what often happen is that i somewhat regret making them. I guess because the feeling are now out. The really bad lie in the video that was supposed to be my answer, really wasn't. I know that it was on purpose and so do you, and i know that you knew that it was. No one can forget if they have voted that day every single day for what was it 17 day ? and only meer hours after eachother. I for some reason really felt like saying that and so i did. Again i regret it as with most of those types of videos and that is why they are deleted.
     
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    You'll remain permenately banned, thanks. Any attempt to come back will be met with the same fate.
    Open anymore Ban Appeals and you will receive warning points this is your 3rd Ban Appeal you had your chance.
     
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