Sin HP Washing

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    Hi, I currently have a lvl 78 Hermit. I've never HP washed her before, so currently she has about 2.6k hp. I'm wondering if it's too late to start? I actually don't mind restarting and creating a new sin so I can int wash this time, but I'm wondering if it's worth the effort/time.

    Second thing is adding enough base dex. She currently has 25 base and Im aiming to equip a 140 dex craven. Her currently dex eq includes the 2 carat ring, a 10 dex earring, a 7 dex shoe and a soon to be zak helm (assume 16 dex). Would adding dex at lvl 80 be too early? I have yet scroll a bottom for dex though, but I'm aiming to.
     
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    What HP are you aiming for?

    For your first question, I would definitely restart. While it may not be too late to start, this will save you on a lot of MP if you have some decent Int gear.

    For your second question, I'd start of with a base of 70-80 while utilizing all those equips you have mentioned. Slowly use AP Resets to get rid of the extra Dex as you build up and improve your gear. Keep in mind that end game gear doesn't include a lot of Dex, but try and maximum every bit you can get like Almighty Rings, Maple Leaf/Face Acc, Masks, etc.
     
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    Im honestly not too sure. What's the average level/HP most sins stop washing?

    Thanks for the advice! :)
     
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    5.6k to survive Horntail with HB, 9k without.

    A few higher level funded players are aiming for 13k to survive Pink Bean with Hyper Body.
     
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    I didnt HP wash my NL until I started around level 90 ish. 78 isnt too late at all if you just want to cover the basics. 60 int is one wash every two levels, and isn't too hard to obtain with some cheap equips or base int.

    Some numbers to aim for:
    5200 to survive Pap 2nd body touch damage. (Not necessary, but nice to have. Can avoid touch damage by KBing with 12k lines, or ducking/darksight in time)
    5400 by 125 if you want to survive anego's gun (long ranged attack)
    5600 HP by level 155 for Horntail
    (I dont know the numbers for Pink Bean, but it isnt released nor confirmed so that doesnt matter right now)

    Thieves need 12 MP per reset, which is 120 int. We gain about +20~24 HP per reset.
    To figure out your minimum MP currently, take off all your gear (in case any of it gives MP), then with your base MP use this formula:
    Min MP Formula for Thief = 14 x level + 148
    http://royals.ms/forum/threads/fully-revised-hp-washing-guide.8286/ More info there

    Regarding base dex:
    To wear a craven you need 140 dex. You should aim to wear the level 80 top/bottoms as they're easier to find (for males at least- for female characters have fun. I went with a level 90 osfa top and level 80 pirate skirt).
    To wear the level 80 bottoms you need 120 dex. So, your first goal is to reach 120 dex- and then 140.
    75 base dex to start with. 30 dex from a scrolled zhelm will bring you to 105 dex. another 5 from a deputy star and that's 110 dex already. Get 10 dex earrings. Then you're at 120 dex- enough to wear the thief bottoms. Get a set of bottoms (dark/red pirate bottoms are most common) that are about 15 dex for now. Later on you'll want to go for higher, for end game, but for now we're just aiming for a start with room to improve later. Female red pirate bottoms can be farmed from Blue Kentauraus rather easily once you hit level 90ish. Check hidden street for other drop locations.

    75 base dex, 30 dex zhelm, 10 dex earrings, 5 dex from deputy star, and 15 dex from bottoms brings us to 135 dex. 3 dex from a clean 2carat ring brings you to 138- so you need 2 more to wear a craven- which is your mid term goal. You can go about this a few ways. The easiest way is to gach at Showa or Sleepywood and hope for a clean 5 dex leaf, which is a face accessory. Krexel rings can also give 2-3 stats average but that's a boss for level 135+ unless you ask nicely to buy a ring from someone who's going to go on a run. Pre-quests take a bit of time though. (more info here on krexel prequest http://royals.ms/forum/threads/guide-to-krexels-pre-quests.16203 )
     
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    NLs get that much from level up AP, but only get 16-20 through AP Resets.
     
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    I was just quoting the HP washing thread on that :p
     
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    First section was for level up AP. Second section was for AP Resets. It was a bit confusing for me as well which is why I made an HP Washing Table :)
     
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    Just to give you an example: I washed 80 times, with around 30-40 from job advancement. To survive Anego at 120, that should suffice but would require you to level with 120 int.

    @Midnightx pm me on Skype later, I can help you with the math. C:
     

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