Could anyone help me with HP Wash calculation?

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  1. Mefistoh
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    // HP Washing Calculator Link! //

    Class: Shadower
    Level: 88
    Current HP: 7681
    Current MP: 3758
    Base INT: 225
    INT Gear: 98
    Level to stop using gear- 135
    NO MW, NO Mp washing,
    HP goal is 12,500 and LV for HP goal is 135 :)

    The thing I find hard understanding is at what LV. should I stop putting fresh AP into HP, and start putting it into my main stat.
    Thank you for ur time :)
     
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    upup
    plsss
     
  3. ImVeryJelly
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    upload_2022-12-12_1-23-14.png

    *WARNING: Make sure to read it all

    So based off this, it says lv 88-200, you need to add 130 AP into HP and you'll have 12500 (approximately) at lv 135. 130/5 = 26 levels, so keep adding all your AP into HP until lv 114, the rest can go into LUK.
    Then, once you hit lv 135, you can remove all your INT and your 130 AP that you added into the HP/MP pool (Use an APR, -INT+LUK, and Use an APR, -MP+LUK).

    *Ignore the text below if you have already taken out your AP from HP/MP pool and added back into LUK, but If you do have couple hundreds of AP inside your HP/MP pool that you have not removed (-mp+LUK), then read on.
    However, since it seems you've already added some AP into your current HP, the above calculation may be INCORRECT.
    Because now you need to back track exactly how many AP you've put into HP, and see if you have enough MP to take out (Minimum MaxMP Formula for Thief = (14 x level) + 148 and Thief lose 12MP per APR). So for a level 135 thief, you cannot go below 2038MP. 4550-2038=2512 (4550 = "total MP after HP washing" from the picture above) is the amount of free MP you can use to bring AP back into LUK. 2512/12 = 209 AP, So if you've previously put more than 209 AP into HP before lv 88, then you're running out of MP and need some MP washing to increase your MP pool.
     
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    The truth is, I've been adding fresh AP into HP since lv 46. (Which is the level I reached 220 base INT).

    The problem is, in every other level, the calculator showed me different information. for instance, last time I checked (lvl 46) the calculator told my that I should invest 222 AP into HP in order to reach 12.5k HP(Meaning, stop adding HP at lv 91)
    but now it shows a different result O_O isnt that weird?
     
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    From what i've seen, there's 2 thing with the calculator that requires you to keep track of all your APs.

    1. The stats you put into the calculator is what you have as a base, this means it assume that each time you put an AP into HP, you have already taken the AP out of MP and put it into LUK (by using an APR). It no longer becomes accurate if you just keep putting AP into HP without taking it out from MP.
    2. It assumes you have 0 un-used AP/You used all your AP and didn't save any to be used later.

    The calculator is accurate, whenever mine gives me different results, in the end I do find it was myself that did something wrong.
     
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    I see,
    I don't intend to wash that way, my plan is to wash everything at lv 135..

    Is my char done for ? If not, could you help me figure it out please ? :)
     
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    I'd need to know how much AP you've already put into HP.
     
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    222 fresh APS into hp.
     
  9. ImVeryJelly
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    You're not too far off then. Previously I mentioned you need MP wash if you've put in more than 209 AP into HP. So that's only 222-209 = 13 washes, or 13x12= 156 MP you need. You can either keep leveling after lv 135 with just 13 AP inside HP/MP, and remove them later to add to LUK (use INT gear when leveling up), or spent extra APR to do some MP wash. Honestly, the 13 LUK is not gonna be a huge deal and you should just reset them later on, your character will be playable as normal.
    Keep in mind all the numbers are averages since you gain ~14-16mp per level, the calculator uses the average (15mp) for the calculations.
     
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    Sorry but Im kind of misunderstanding everything :|
    1. How many fresh APs should I invest into HP in order to reach 12.5k at 135?
    2. Could you elaborate on MP washing for the spare 13 LUK that I'm going to miss ? How can I get those points back ?
     
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    1. Same as stated before, add 130 AP (+/- a couple because of average values) into HP for 12.5k at 135.
    2. Without MP washing, you can just keep leveling past lv 135 and wear your INT gears each time you're about to level, to gain the extra 156 MP needed to wash out the 13 LUK.
    But if you really want to MP wash with your current stats of 225 base INT, you need to put 16 8 AP into MP, then use APR to -mp+LUK until no more AP is inside your hp/mp pool. The stats for the mp wash would be:
    You need 156MP
    You gain 22MP per fresh AP into MP, from your 225INT
    You lose 12MP when you remove AP from MP and add to LUK
    Essentially, you gain 10 MP for every AP you add to MP.
    156/(22-12)=15.6=16 AP.
    Edit: My bad, from 1 fresh AP into MP, you gain 22 MP + 11MP (average) = 33 MP. So you need to add
    156/(33-12)=8 AP (+/- 1 AP because of 10-12 MP range, but taking 11 as average)
     
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    I made an edit to the post above.
     
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    Wow! I can't thank you enough :love:
    you're awesome
     
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