Community Blacklist

Eh, im down with that guy too.
If i decide to hunt a boss, regardless if its for xp, mesos, nx or cards, im killing all of them, even if its just for feeling op on my char.
If royals staff think boss camping is an issue they have several solutions:
Make his map instanced like pap
Remove the drops incentivizing players to camp him
Change his spawn rate to be more common
Remove the need to kill him from the quest.
As is, its YOUR responsibility to prepare for your ht run in advance. Or you could find someone killing it and ask to tag it for the quest, as its all you need.

 

to successfully black list future offenders you would need to:
- define "camping", how long can one stay on a ch waiting for manon?
- come up with a "hierarchy of needs" of who deserves to kill manon first like:
[1] Questers -> [2] NX Hunters -> [3] Card Hunters -> [4] EXP hunters -> [5] others
- written down etiquette for area boss hunting

that's all possible.

but it comes down to one thing, everyone's style of playing mapleroyals is different, some kill all the manon, some just sit in kerning city and smega 'uwu', as long as one singular player or guild isn't being targeted it really should not be a problem?

EDIT: and dealing with the people who cc surf all channels killing manon, trying to outwit them, trying to be faster than them, trying to be more persistent than them.... it's all part of the game, it makes mapleroyals fun

 

To be honest, this issue does not even concern about moral at all.

1)People who did HT quest to kill HT want to get valuable books or sell HT svc to earn mesos.
2)I am hunting manon to get valuable books, nx, eq, etc and sell them for mesos.
From what I see, there is no difference between the above 2.

Again, allow me to re-emphasize. If you want to kill HT to earn mesos, put in the effort to hunt for manon to complete your HT quest. If I want to hunt manon to earn mesos, I will also put in the effort to hunt for manon. Nothing about moral. Is about your commitment.

We don't have to make this simple system so difficult.

 

wouldnt hurt if anyone regularly hunting Manon and reading this just left 1 or 2 channels (like channel 1 and 2) for the community and so no further drama has to occur and everyone can be happy. Just pretend there is no channel 1 and 2 for this particular boss, every other boss go full on.

 

but then people will go to ch1/ch2 and just say they were killing manon for the quest, and then forfeit the quest and kill it again lol - if asked they'll say they accidentally forfeited it, or forgot to get quest uh oh spaghetti-o's

 

People really angry about not being able to get their manons huh

Put some goddamn effort and prepare in advance you entitled snowflakes. Too busy at work? Prepare a few elixers on the weekends. The quest isn’t available only once a day neither does manon spawn only once a day.

If you want to join an impromptu ht run without preparing an elixir you got to be ready to be disappointed with no Manon.

what are you guys gonna complain about next? People who login immediately after server checks to get fm spots are blacklistable too because you couldn’t find a fm spot after work/school/life? You don’t get the best of both worlds. If you don’t want to put in effort or the time you don’t get to complain about others who actually do.

if you can’t put in the effort or time, know that no one owes you anything.

What a joke having to even discuss this.


Gms, if you ever decide to make manons an instanced boss where you pay xx amount of mesos to enter a map with guaranteed manon, there wouldn’t be people crying over this. Just a suggestion. You doing a great job so far.

 

I am pretty sure this will not solve the "issue" as new players come and go which will cause a lot of players to be unaware about this unofficial rule. To be honest, I have been playing this game for 2 years and I don't know even know about this blacklist page until today.

Also, may I ask why must we give such a special privilege to HT runners by reserving 2 chnls? Some people like me depend on hunting all these bosses to earn mesos. You may argue that it will make more mapleroyal's players stronger by getting more books to buff the players but missing 2 chnls might cost players like me to miss some good drops from manon. As much as I want to be compassionate and I feel I have done my part by waiting for HT team to bring their team in before I kill, this is still a dog-eat-dog world.

 

it will make the difference for absolutely 100% sure as it is the people which shape the world. If you prefer to live in a cruel world without care for each other that is your problem, but why force such a destructive environment upon a video game which is supposed to revive childhood nostalgia and happiness?
Just leave something for the others, its that easy

 

i find sometimes it's very helpful to discuss things using an analogy, it takes away bias, pre-conceived notions, and emotions (rhyme not intended)

ok so suppose there was a certain pizza chain that made a super special pepperoni slice, but only once every 3 hours. and there were 25 of these pizzerias in your town.

would it be okay for someone to drive to each of the 25 pizza places, one at a time, buying all of the available pepperoni slices?
would you frown upon that?
or is that his right to do so, if he wants to drive to all 25 and eat all the special slices?
are you saying everyone should just have 1 slice at their local pizza place, what if there are multiple people there, should they take turns? or should it be first come first serve? would it be okay for one person to just live in a tent right outside the pizzeria so whenever a slice is available he can grab it?

i sit on the fence with most things, but i think if he wants to drive to all 25 places and get the special once-every-three-hour pepperoni slice, let 'em have it.

 

Broo, if you are talking about childhood nostalgia, I have never ever seen a walking manon before when I was playing maplesea. People who want to kill manon in the back old days must literally camp there for a few hrs to get the kills. And don't make me go to the manon cry drop rate. Anyway, putting that aside because is not the main point.

I would argue that killing manon does not create a destructive environment. From what I see, it will just annoy a selective group of players here who always whine about how "hard" it is to kill manon and clear HT quest.

And also, this is not a real world, is a game and there is no cyber bullying here, so don't implicate human moral or value into this issue. You are just complicating things further. In fact, from what I see, it is just a competition between me and all players on who can find the manon first in a fair and square manner.

If you want everything to go in your way and always want things to change just because it does not benefit you. I would say you are not improving the game experience from overall perspective but you just want an easy life here.

 

correct me if i'm wrong, but i thought the topic was debating putting BlueSotong on the *community blacklist* for ch surfing and killing all the manons, and whether that's right? is that not the topic?

not trying to be argumentative, just looking to be educated

 

@gachaboi123 whether you deserve to be on the blacklist or not you're certainly a very unlikable person lol

 

TBH, this is the first time I'm described as an "unlikeable" person in my 2 years time with mapleroyal. But that comment does not surprise me since this is the first time I have a long discussion with people who grind their way in mapleroyal by selling HT svc and it just so happen that I'm in their way.

 

The rs was not only bought once. It was bought twice. Its troll to put it in the store yes, but to buy it multiple times would seem like the buyer was almost 100% fault at that point. Unlike bundle scams which are mostly hard to detect, this was pretty straight forward. I don't see how this is blacklist worthy but hey..

 

@sids are you watching this ?

 

I think you should read some other reply I had done. There is no double that you said I bought it twitce. And I said that I will pay for what I did in mistake. So why not just consider some other points we all metioned.
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No doubt he should've responded to you. Its 50/50 it seems. Kinda troll to put up in shop as well as troll to buy it! For the outfit change thing, it looks like hes a low lvl char with a broomstick which seems to be a washing character probably? Maybe he just wanted a different look Good luck with your situation hope everything goes well.

 

It's weird of you to assume that people are mad because they "don't put in the effort to complete the HT quest."

The reason why this behavior needs to be deterred is because you selfishly increase the amount of effort everyone in the community needs to put into a core gameplay mechanic in this server for like 20m. I have personally advised many of my friends and guild members, if I ever spot someone or hear of someone hunting manons, to stop doing so. Most of them thankfully listened to me, after I explained how this sort of activity hurts others. I suppose to you they were just idiots making it easier for you to farm nx.

You keep hiding behind the server rules, claiming that if the admins wanted it banned it would be illegal. But again, these are not ban appeals. "Bad leech" isn't illegal in any way shape or form, but people get blacklisted for it. Likewise "ruining APQ" or "leaving LHC" or "loot stealing" or "refusing to share splits" or a variety of other perfectly legal activities that this community has decided to be unacceptable behavior.

Some of the more conservative members of this community might throw up their hands and say, "well I don't like it, but it's not against the rules." I see that mentality already present in some replies. To that, I can only say that for whatever the wider perception of the community blacklist may be, and it is admittedly poor, consider that if we could not centrally agree on critical rules as a community then we would not be able to have very nice things indeed. Imagine a world where people threw their hands up and said boss loot sniping is allowed because it's not against the rules - we'd end up in a world where everyone just dashes for valuable drops the moment the boss died. A world where everyone is more invested in running after apples that drop from others' boxes, than maximizing max coverage. But we don't do that, because we chose not to.

And we can choose not to put up with this either.

I would go so far as to venture that if this community cannot rally together and declare this sort of activity blacklistable, then the community blacklist is unable to fulfill its intended purpose, and should be retired as the mere relic of a bygone era it has become.

But then, perhaps it already is.