General Make ships more mandatory, limit them to 3-5 minutes per ride instead

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    Fast travel tickets are making this game more boring. Why can't we just ride them for only 3-5 minutes from Ellinia to Orbis etc? It's not nostalgic to teleport everywhere with VIP tickets and fast travel tickets just like that.

    Those who say they don't have time are big liars to themselves and everyone else. I have a job, study computer science at college ( which is super hard and time consuming ) and i have a life too outside computers, but how do i manage to travel from Ellinia to Orbis etc?

    Just make it a few minutes ride instead of the original 10-15 minutes.

    Also make fast travel tickets more expensive, every new player is getting them just like that. With this system you can just delete the whole ship system since nobody is using them except me atm >.>
     
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    but mules..
     
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    How many mules do you need to play bruh? I had mules too in old school MS and still used ships. I haven't met a single player who used multiple mules to travel all the time. It doesn't take much effort to pack them into a ship either since you are already able to use mules while playing.

    You don't even need mules to be honest. Why use a HS mule during boss, or a crash mule when you can just recruit normal active players?

    There are other servers who still use a ship system and their time is reduced, it works pretty fine and nobody complains. Why does this server have to have every stupid cheating item handed over just like that? Why does everyone want to travel fast, level fast, gain mesos fast? This server progression is too fast it's not even fun anymore. I have met 2 guys so far ( i just joined btw ) who told me that they cannot travel to orbis, because they don't have a fast travel ticket. It's just a 10 minute ride man not 10 hours.

    And all im asking to reduce the ship ride to 3-5 minutes so people could experience the old school times again. Literally nobody uses ships anymore not even new players.


    Don't you. want this back?





    If ship rides were mandatory to at least 2-5 minutes, VIP rocks / fast travel ticket was 2-3x more expensive, people would have way more fun. Those ship rides made maplestory.
     
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    Pretty cool video, however this happened at Orbis release, no? Cause this is a pretty unusually high amount of passengers for the golden era (I played from Beta server untill 2008/2009ish and only once saw that many people which was when Orbis came out. I couldnt afford a ticket that day and saw no reason to go to Orbis back then so I did not lol).

    Totally agreed, the boundless dimensions of greed and speed destroy the original gameplay, however for high lvl players it is not often practical to take the ships, since sometimes you need to meet people fast or join a party fast and not wait any second.

    The practical reason, why TP rocks are needed, is:

    There is not many players out there.

    If there is a party waiting for you, you will simply tp and off everyone goes. It is absolutely not realistic to expect people to wait for a player that needs to take several ships (often even fast travel is too slow for that), since many times people do not have that much time in real life - given the server demographic. Because of that, actually in contrast to what you assume, TP rocks even serve your case since they make it possible for something to happen instead of no match due to real life time restraints.

    By making TP rocks more expensive, you actively hinder quite a substancial amount of parties to be formed and actually counteract massively your initial intentions.

    For instance, Pirate Party Quest is a mid game party quest that is actually still played. With TP rocks being more expensive you would limit the amount of mid game players to be able to attend in a timely manner, and that would hurt royals and not help anyone. There is quite a few examples where TP rocks being more expensive would be bad, similar to the PPQ example.

    Increasing the price would only be nice to serve as a money sink for the richest players but it would probably mostly ONLY ANNOY EVERYONE and secondly actually hurt the scarce remnants of the active player community as described above.


    Apart from the above, if you wanna make ships more appealing you should rather get the rides down to <= 60 secs insteald of 3 min +. The stork flying from Orbis to MuLung would be an example of an acceptable time frame, everything above will not be used by people.
     
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    I knew this kind of answer would come from you. " Not realistic ", " not enough time ". You don't have 5 minutes for a boat ride but you have time to goof off in a game and write me back here in forums? You don't have 5 minutes for a single boat ride but you have few minutes time to run and grab a fast travel ticket from FM and run back to the Ellinia station? That seems unrealistic to me.

    Most servers had 1000-3000 players online and i saw many players take a boat ride. I was there 2004-2010. Even playing late 2009 in a Kradia server that had mostly 2000-2500 players ( it was one of the smallest servers in GMS ) and i still saw players during boat rides.

    This was filmed way later than orbis was introduced.




    Also there are other servers ( i wont say the names but it's close to Royals ) and it has still players using that ship and it's way more fun than Royals and nobody complains about it. What's the issue with 2 minutes boat ride instead of 10-15 minutes? I would rather take a few minutes ride than go and buy a fast travel ticket that takes 2 minutes total travel..

    Though 2 minutes is unrealistic for crimson balrog battles. It's better to have 3-5 minute rides.


    Also is 5 minutes gonna ruin your whole gameplay? NO it's not. It's fairly idiotic thing to say you don't have time to play a game that takes 5 minutes of your time for something that has been part of this game for years. It's part of the original old school maplestory system.

    Player 1 using smega : " R> LPQ, need 2 more members ".

    Player 2: " invite me, level 37 mage ".

    Player 1: " Hey, hows it going?".

    Player 2: " good good, just taking a boat in Ellinia, will be there soon ".

    Player 1: " Yeah cool no problem, see you soon !".


    This is how it's usually been, i have never met a player who has forced you to buy VIP rocks or fast travel tickets. I have never met a player who gets mad or kicks you if it takes you some minutes to get to the destination. Not even high level players. To be completely honest, i think you are just impatient and lazy to travel for a few minutes and actually enjoy the game instead of rushing every continent and content.


    Why not make fast travel tickets level 50-100 requirement since everyone keeps talking about high level characters and mules? What is the possible reason you have to speed run your level 35 mule besides ludi PQ ( where people usually 100% wait for you to come there )?.

    Also don't lie to me. I have a job, i study computer science at college ( which is one of the hardest majors at college and very time consuming ) and i also have friends and a girlfriend and a family i regularly visit. Making a 5 minute boat ride is not a problem at all. MapleStory is not WoW Classic lol


    Why not? What's the problem with few minutes boat ride that is fun too?
     
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    Hm.. It would be okay if fast pass and tele rock has a lv limit (30 or 50).

    If i'm forced to take ship because of expenses, it'll likely be in a random solo channel so I can kill the crogs for NX. Other ships without crogs, i'll just be playing on a different client or browse the web while waiting for ship to end, at any random channel.

    Edit: After playing for years, I've found, after the first couple month to experience the "nostalgia", many nostalgic factors just straight up sucks.
     
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    Geez... did you just come here to neg everyone. Are you trying to convince people by insulting them, or just trying to be "right"?
     
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    Is it you Zofran? Welcome back dude, we missed you :love::love::love:

    You should add a poll to let everyone vote about it!
     
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    Something that is pretty obvious with royals is that nostalgia has taken a backseat.
     
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    Sounds like someone got kicked from a boss run because they refused to tele rock/buy a fast travel ticket
     
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    I have time to use ships, absolutely. But I don't always want to use them, especially not when I'm just going somewhere to do one quest and then go back to where ever I came from.

    It's just like in other games with fast travel. Sometimes I want to explore, sometimes I just want to get to the next part of the game quicker. If you want to use the ships, use them, but let other people do what ever they want to :pepeboba:
     
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    I don't know anyone named Zofran sorry.

    I'm level 37, i have never bossed before in this Server lol. And i do have mesos / NX to buy those but it's just boring gameplay to me. I have taken a ship ride 2 times now and it's been really great. That 10 minute ride allows me to do other things too. It's a shame nobody else shares a ride with me, back in the days it was the most fun thing ever.

    Sure thing but that's not old school maple at all if you whine about going back and forth that shouldn't take that long.. especially from a level 200. What's the rush? This server highly focuses on levels and mesos, nobody cares about adventures and making friends anymore and discovering new / old places.



    I guess you are right. I think that would be a great idea to give fast travel ticket a level requirement, 30 or 50 at least. It makes no sense that a level 7 player can travel fast just like that. Everyone literally gives free items / mesos here if you ask them and you get NX pretty easily here too. I vote for level 50 requirement for fast travel tickets.
     
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    I have made friends for life through this game and still make new friends. As for discovering new / old places, it's difficult to do so after being in maplestory for like, a decade (5 of those years on this server alone). Though occasionally it can be fun to roleplay with new characters and do quests I didn't care much about on my other characters and stuff like that.

    And to answer the "What's the rush" question. Simple, I play games to have fun and unwind after work/what ever else I have been doing during the day. Sometimes, just exploring in peace or traveling in game is fun. Sometimes, it isn't. Sometimes I just want some action. I am in a rush to get to the fun parts, what ever that may be at the moment, otherwise what's the point of playing games? When royals gets boring, I won't log in and instead play something else, just like if traveling on a ship isn't fun for me, I will skip it. :chillin:
     
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    Well sounds like to me you are in a hurry. I also work and study at the same time. Does taking a boat flight mean you're not gonna unwind at all? Pretty dumb accusation. You're saying ship flights aren't " fun parts "? You basically agree with me on this 50% but you still would rather travel alone during ships and use rocks / tickets 50% of the time? I doubt you even use ships lol
     
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    Population is decreasing and you want people to afk more...

    Or people will just summon farm/surf fm/do anything else on another client during all the annoying ship rides, good luck talking to them -.-'
     
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    You're scared players will quit and afk forever? It's just a damn few minutes ride. You haven't clearly met every single player in this game have you?

    Jeez people are so scared of this boat it's just insane. Ya all just neurotic and lazy tbh. You can summon farm even now and nobody is doing it anyways because there are tickets / vip rocks.
     
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    I just told you I'm in a hurry to get to the fun parts, so yes I am in a hurry lol. I see no point in playing a game if I'm not having fun with it. If traveling is not fun at the moment, then yes I will skip it. Everyone unwinds differently. Sometimes I like a calm experience and other times I like intense games like Killing floor 2, which is not relaxing in the slightest, to unwind.

    I'm sorry, are you sure you're not Zofran? I have never seen anyone else care this deeply about such a non-issue. You also just made another similar post about the same topic with a poll. Zofran made polls all the time :Sus: ~f12
     
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    I have no single fkin clue who Zofran is. What do you mean all the time? This is my single and probably only poll i will ever make ( also my first poll ). And what's the hype with Zofran too? Also i do not appreciate you suspecting me like that.

    Also i think ships are fun. I joined few days ago for nostalgia i haven't had for years. Ships were always a good time for me. I doubt i'm the first one talking about this issue either, since i can find other players talking about the same thing. Go away, you're literally talking nonsense to yourself too. You said you like ship rides before now you suddenly don't enjoy it " at times ". Make up your mind already lol. You're not supporting my claim here at all. You bring other games here too which don't have anything to do with this thread.


    Ahh let this thread be closed. It's getting toxic already. No use talking against people who have played almost a " decade " and are close minded to improve this game to be a little more old school and more fun.
     
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    I have said in all my responses that I will rush towards what ever I think is fun at the moment. Sometimes traveling is fun, sometimes it isn't. I am often alone while traveling, but meet players occasionally. It was like that in Maple europe (back when that was a thing) as a kid. I was alone more often than not and occasionally met some other player on ships. What you think is nostalgic isn't necessarily nostalgic for other people and vice versa. I really have no clue why you are so aggressive about this, but wanting all these changes to force other players to appeal to what you personally think is nostalgic is just silly.
     
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