Bishop's Guide 2022, [Horntail Guide!]

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    mostly same as guide. 1 shining ray > max hs > max shining ray > max door > max doom > max dispel > other stuff (don't max elemental resist)
     
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    Is there any urgency to max door/doom/dispel after shining ray? I just got my hs and shining ray to max and thinking about adding bahamut to 15 for heartstoppers farming
     
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    Hi I’m a new player and found this guide while preparing for my char.

    Quick question regarding Hp washing. Can I ask what does removing max mp skill do?

    Thanks!
     
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    Its meant for washing.
    So to gain more hp, a apr is needed,
    - MP into HP.
    The magic happens here. With the Max MP Skill removed, instead of minus 30 MP, it minuses 20.
    So u save some MP :)

    But! You will want to have this skill maxed because it helps you gain so much more MP when leveling.
     
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    you do not get bahamut in 3rd job. you get a tiny babby-dragon who does tiny babby-damage and who only gets SP because he is a prerequisite for bahamut. he is not a viable summon for stopper farming.

    if you want, you can leave door at 2 min and start skilling doom earlier; you only need the door to last long enough to NPC the equips you want to sell. doom only starts to be used around lv90-100ish, which is when you are likely to start the ellin questline
     
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    Got it! Thanks. So the recommended level to start washing is still around 150 for a new player?
     
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    Yup that is correct!
     
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    I'd say that kind of depends, but certainly no earlier than 130. You can start washing earlier if you hit your tma goal before 150 too. I think I started at 137, and that's slightly late if you want 30k HP and MP, but I'd recommend not going above 10k HP - it's just not worth it.
     
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    thanks for this! curious - what was your target tma? I see that a lot of guides take skele (1291) as a target - is that more or less the same for a newbie like me? lol
     
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    Oh wow thanks for the heads up! Some really crucial hints here :o

    EDIT: Following your guide, it's basically every skill maxed for priest except 15 in dragon and 1 in elemental. Is there any time where we will be getting a lot of elemental damage? 1 in elemental resistance is 12% compared to maxed at 50%
     
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    Either that or enough to 1hit ulu2, I believe that was my goal since it's good enough, and you still do get tma while washing, just with how I'm washing it's batched into 50 tma every 10 levels instead of 5 every level.

    Also note skeles is closer to 1300 tma, and the exact requirement depends on how much int vs. MA you have. For example, my 134 bishop will need 1302 tma to 1hit, and I believe around 1330+ after I go down to gen25 (there's not enough sp at level 134 to max gen and mw, so eventually probably reset gen -> mw so I don't have to mule MW20)
     
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    hey joon when you meant to add fresh ap to mana do you mean to do that for every level and follow step 1 and 2 and repeat?
     
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    I'm currently level 142, selling leech at ulu2 with mw10. I'm working on being able to one-shot Skeles, but not there yet.

    I'm considering two options on what to do until then, but not quite sure which is the better one.
    • Stay at 142 until I can afford the gear needed to sell leech at Skeles. At that point, level to 145 and get mw20.
    • Level to 145 early and aim for mw20.
    The second option would result in lower exp rates, but I'd have mw20. Would it be worth it, or am I better off staying at 142 for now?
     
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    A 3 level difference won't result in a big exp rate change. Assuming lv 90 solo ulu2 leecher (worst case for level penalty), you'll give them roughly 0.85% less exp at 145.
     
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    hey can i ask you a question for part one and two do you do both for every time you lvl for instance adding fresh mana do you do it from both part one and part two so twice every level ? let me know thanks:)
     
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    New player need some advices and have two question.
    I let my Bishop meso making from leech.
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    My Bishop is lv 137 and can 1 hit ulu2.
    Now I keep my Bishop level at 137 and sell low leech until can 1 hit skele. Because low level easy have buyer.
    If I need to HS mule in all boss run .
    Lv 137 can join all bossing ? like auf , Von Leon, Toad etc.
    If not. what lowest level can I join all Boss ?
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    I think I can't hit bossing like HT when lv 137.
    If my Bishop join bossing and not attack . Just Dispel,HS,health etc .
    Can get split from bossing or get some gear like krex ring , HTP etc ?

    Thank for answer.
     
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    HT exp starts at 155. If you're only bringing bish might be hard to join under that, especially if you can't 1hit skele yet.
    Auf prequests require lv 146 to finish. Exp starts at 175. Bish mains not really wanted there.
    Von Leon is 175+ to do prequests. Bish mains are in high demand there.

    For bishop mains in bossing, krex will be very hard to join. Literally all you do in krex is cast HS twice (once per eye) and afk the rest of the run, in a safe spot where you don't even get hit.
    Zak will be a bit easier as bish main can help some (holy shield for stuns, dispells, gene is good vs arms). Can get splits or helms here sometimes.
    HT is once again easier as bish main, although I'd recommend washing to 5-10k HP for that, and you'll want max bahamut + 1300 tma or so. Can easily get splits/htp/nx here
    Shao: best you can do is HS someone for exp, or maybe hs + leave party (no exp for you) to get the nx.
    Von leon: bish mains are very wanted, I'd recommend washing to ~8.5k HP to be safe from mobs if dispelled. Usually bishops get splits + nx priority
    Auf: bish mains not really needed, even for HS. A lot of auf runners don't care about the exp it gives, and there's not much for a bish to do there.
    Scarga: no need for a bish main. Either mule HS or just don't care about exp
    Showa boss: no one runs this lol
    Toad: no need for a bish main. Either mule hs or just don't care about exp
     
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    When MP washing, does the level of Improved MaxMP Increase affect the amount of MP gained?

    Like,
    AP from level up -> MP
    Reset MaxMP -> lvl 0
    Reset MP -> INT
    Reset MaxMP -> lvl 10

    Does the lowered MaxMP level decrease MP spent when resetting to INT?
     
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    MP increase will increase the amount of MP gained when adding MP by 10 more, but once you do -mp +hp or -mp + int you'd also lose more (you'd lose 30 MP while without increase you'd lose 20)

    So the most efficient way would be to level up and add MP with increase on and then once you want to reset that MP get the MP increase to 0 first
     
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    Hi, I'm a lv151 newbie BS, have a question. I was told every 10 INT increase the mp gain from lv up. Does INT from MW or echo also counted when washing?
    LOVE this guide! Really helps a lot, ty!
     

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