He arguably could say the exact same thing about you. From the screenshots provided, he obviously wasn't the friendliest player but you clearly escalated the situation by defaming him first and telling him to eat a dick. If anything his biggest fault wasn't defaming you, it was potentially griefing the rest of the party by threatening to intentionality allow the drop to disappear. But you also proceeded to insult him further by insinuating his behavior as typical of his guild. I don't know, is everyone in Storm the type of player who can't handle interpersonal conflict and relies on the community blacklist as a crutch? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
OOOF, gottem! Sometimes when you wanna have the last word you end up in a shitfest. Be like me, expert at walking away and pretending to be AFK. Nobody's worth it
He's more than welcome to call me out and make his post. ... is that not the point of the black list? I don't understand how this is personal conflict and not literally jeopardizing a party quest for childish behaviour?
I'm confused by the feedback from this thread. If someone deliberately ruins a PQ for multiple people with malice and aforethought, you would condemn another for defaming them and telling them to eat a dick? Those two things are the precise response you're supposed to make in that situation, I think. That said, it is unclear from evidence that this Ho11ow individual deliberately ruined the PQ though the signs are there. I'm not so much commenting on the original blacklist request as the responses to it, which seem wildly detached from reality...
Personally I think they're both in the wrong but do note: Pike told them to eat a dick and defamed first, and after that hollow threatened to throw. So the eat a dick wasn't in response to threatening to throw the pq. You can also see the message that they passed the pq.
When you PQ, you will meet alot of different people some much more annoying than others. Having met many guys like this ho11ow type best way is always just expel and replace. My point is, if you start a fire from a defame or telling them bad stuff many people will get insulted. Not sure what the reason here is. It doesn't excuse his actions but you're basically lowering yourself to his level and could probably sorted it out in the party by having leader expel one of you.
Thanks for clarifying this, I've also edited my original post. Oops just exposed myself for never participating in anniversary events~
Imo this pike guy is the bigger problem He instigated the entire thing and got griefed as a response. Congratulations, you got what you tried to get. Its bizzare to me how people go out of their way to piss people off and then get all huffy and surprised when that person gets pissed.
I think at this point would be important to have more evidence if there were, but that's not the case. All I'm thinking now is what I think of often nowadays: "The truth always reveals itself."
Just not as serious in this case, but kinda similar situation. Remember the other answers makes shanks mad!
How did I instigate the whole thing lmao, I was just trying to help the fella complete the stage as instructed by the leader of the party and guy responds with petty behavior then refuses to complete the PQ, it was then AFTER that that I started getting huffy about it
My guess is most people believe that you didn't act appropriately either (though instigate is perhaps too strong a word to be suitable here). Also if your party leader specifically instructed you to help top right, that information was not included in your ss and if you have evidence of that, you might sway some opinions. Additionally the 'huffiness' seemed to begin not after the PQ but immediately (as far as I can tell). Spoiler: relevant chat from ss I think that most people would agree that the 'correct' response that you should have taken is, 'Go to midleft because HariesLover asks for help in party chat' instead of 'Escalate the situation by defaming Ho11ow'. Yes, he was definitely rude, but the moment you defamed and returned the insult, you became equally as rude (if not more), so neither party here has the moral high ground. It doesn't matter that he also escalated later on by multi-defaming you imo. I also suggest that you might want to examine your real unspoken reasons for bringing this issue to the blacklist and whether it is in the spirit of the thread or not. That said, it's fine to get angry occasionally, I've said things I regret too and I try to make up for it after. Hope that you and Ho11ow have had the chance to speak outside of this issue and come to a resolution.
Yup I was a dick for the way I responded, I deserved to be blacklisted for that too, also didn't capture screenshot from when leader instructed me to help, either way, who gets mad at receiving help (?) Either way, I'm sorry if I offended anyone with my comments, and I'm sorry to Hollow for defaming him
1. IGN: Bald2 2. REASON: Continued Toxic Behavior, Harassing Women for not accepting his advances. 3. DETAILS: This is gonna be a long one. There are a few reports on him that are a few weeks old but he's still doing this to people so it's time to just make this public. The Individuals who wished to remain anonymous have their names censored. Multiple people were involved in making this report, we just decided to compile it here altogether. So Bald2 is pretty much a known troll and serial harasser at this point. His harassment tends to go toward women who reject random marriage proposals from him, and those who defend said women. He attacks them, uses black sacks on them, follows them around harassing them, and then claims he's the victim and he's just joking around and that actually everyone else is the one harassing, attacking, and bullying him. The most documented so far was with Yuumie who made an actual report with timestamps, who rejected a proposal while she was AFK. Once she came back he harassed her pretty consistently, denying he ever proposed and claiming the reason he was harassing her was because she was "racist". He offered no proof to this claim and wouldn't provide proof when she challenged him, but still continued the harassment and threatened to smega that she was racist so "he'd win." It continued until she threatened to report him, which he then once again summoned monsters on her to kill her, and begged not to report him and that it was a all a joke. Bald's guild issued him a warning, he stopped targeting her. He then moved on to others. There's many to list but the what happened today and what spawned this public report was his harassment today toward Mizzal and the people sitting around her in Kerning. While she was completely AFK during this ordeal, he began arguing with her AFK self and proceeding to summon balrogs on her for not accepting his marriage proposal or giving him "female attention". The person who told him off (whos name has been removed from this out of request) then became his target and he followed her around all the way to PPQ, killing her with black sacks and harassing her for fighting back. After the ordeal, the people around were discussing it and I took some screenshots. Screenshots will have a mix of uncropped with timestamps(mostly from Yuumie's original report) and others will be cropped for privacy reasons. This is a long report because this has been going on for almost a month. TL: DR: He's a creep who harasses women for rejecting him and attacks/stalks anyone who stands up to him, which he then proceeds to play the victim and beg to not be reported. https://i.filehostingsite/BnB6PJb/ooff.png https://prnt.sc/VIXdWeKSVlv3 https://prnt.sc/ZUs6mXxGOi28 https://prnt.sc/dVndn8HNfw1j https://prnt.sc/7FPpsmDLPbIy https://prnt.sc/XvjqvxaUwfMz https://prnt.sc/1Vr4tJwe-7xm https://prnt.sc/ourvxxFHAinr https://prnt.sc/mrV5orcga7qT
I will add him, for two reasons (besides your report) 1: I had an incident with Bald2 a few days ago and made a report. I'm uncertain whether or not it's something that can be reported, I haven't received a response yet. But it's absolutely something I can put on the blacklist and I will share what happened down below. 2: After telling friends about him, several of them (who I won't name for privacy reasons) told me they have, or know friends who have met Bald2 and had weird encounters with him. Anyway, here's my own incident with him. I feel now is a as good a time as any: So a few days ago, I was leeching on my bishop Akebono. Bald2 came to my map and randomly asked "WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS IT?" while stalking my character for a few seconds, then left the map. I had no idea what he was on about, and he also left as quickly as he came, so I didn't respond. A couple minutes later, he returned and sacked the characters I leeched. Thankfully they were my own characters so he didn't interupt for someone else. Still, I got quite angry, whispered him and asked what the fuck and at first he pretended like he didn't know what I was talking about but later admitted to sacking me. I won't deny that I called him a prick out of frustration and then went after him to defame him. I then left him alone, but he followed my character back for a while to defame me too, or at least he tried. I went to cash shop and afked a while after that. I decided to contact him again, like ~40 mins later. I was calm at that point and wanted to clear things out. At this point, Bald2 threatened to ruin my gaming experience from then on out. He said he would defame me daily (though that wouldn't be possible since Bald2 is his only character according to him, but he didn't believe me when I told him about the fame a character once a month cooldown mechanic) and ruin any leeching by sacking my characters/my buyers every day from then on. I decided to report him because of these threats. He was random, sacked me for no reason, I called him a prick and defamed him, we're even. Right? No, he was going to ruin it for me from then on, which is extremely over the top. Hell, I even tried to plead with him and asked if he would lay off me if I allowed him to defame my bishop one time, but that wasn't enough apparently. "You're done". He then followed one of my characters around (one of the characters he sacked) around at FM a few days later like he did with my bishop when he asked "WHERE IS IT". Unaware it was me probably. I have no screenshots of that though, but I have screenshots of the other stuff I mentioned. It's probably a matter of time until he goes too far like a certain mister L did and gets the banhammer Thanks for your report too. He's going on the list now. Edit: He got banned temporarily for objectionable behavior Spoiler: My screenshots