Party Quests Nerfing / Removing CPQ1 and CPQ2

Hello. I just read a @AvitayG post about LPQ and i have also a suggestion for this matter:

- Nerfing CPQ1 / CPQ2 or possibly removing one of them.

I don't engage in gameplay as frequently, mostly enjoying it during the summer. Additionally, I am currently taking a break that spans six to twelve months. Despite this, I have observed how CPQ1 and CPQ2 significantly impact the gameplay of this server. It appears that only a small group of players choose to level up through means other than CPQs.. These party quests seem to provide an effortless way to level up characters, but at the same time, they lack excitement and require minimal mental effort. Particularly, CPQ2 stands out as players tend to hang out after reaching the easy required 500 CP while participating in trade wins, which almost feels like exploiting the system, it's just very easy getting the 150-200k exp with minimal effort. As a result, it becomes challenging to find groups for other party quests or traditional grinding methods because CPQ1 and CPQ2 dominate the levelling process for players within the level range of 30 to 71. Even having a guild and using smegas don't help much :/ there are players who would rather do LPQ, LMPQ and OPQ but can't find a way to do those.

EDIT: I think fixing party searcher would allow players to find LPQ / OPQ faster and more efficiently @Dave Deviluke

 

I am going to hard disagree that these need a nerf. The issue with early game is less that CPQ is an issue and more that there is little incentive to do other PQ's. With the rework to the totem system coming in the near future it should be more incentive for players to go and do things like LPQ. Also hours do vary an how successful it is to get a group together for pq's...

 

I understand your point regarding the early game and agree that the lack of incentive to do other PQs might be a contributing factor.

It's true that the success of finding a group for PQs can vary depending on the time and player availability. Perhaps with the changes to the totem system, more players will be motivated to participate in a wider range of party quests, making it easier to find groups for different activities. I don't know what a totem system really is but it sounds good.

While I respect your viewpoint, I still believe that CPQ1 and CPQ2 may require some balance adjustments, as their ease of use and effectiveness for levelling could overshadow the appeal of other content. Nevertheless, I am hopeful that the changes in the game's future updates will positively influence the overall gameplay experience. One potential solution could be to reevaluate the experience rewards granted by CPQs, ensuring that they remain attractive while not completely overshadowing other activities.

 

You are absolutely right. I think fixing party searcher would help a ton in this matter

 

Thank you for the suggestion, done

 

CPQ is also global, you can reach CPQ from every continent.

As a level 30-50, outside of mages, you have no movement skills and have to walk to the LPQ lobby.

That requires new players to either waste mesos on a TP rock, fast travel, or spend like 20minutes via boat/trains just getting there.

Unless they release a global hub, I wouldn’t ever want to LPQ even if it was 1:1 exp.

In addition, cpq is easy. Lpq has a bit of learning curve to make the runs fast.

I don’t miss LPQ in this server, as verses spending time trying to explain a certain part of the PQ verses whacking trojans. Spending up to an hour with really bad parties in LPQ is awful.

 

That number puzzle is the reason why I don't do that PQ. Talk about a sleeper of a puzzle.
If I wanted to fall asleep, I'd be watching Attack of the Clones.

 

"Lets do the JMS method"

I till this day have never learned it and do not plan on it lol

 

I always rush to take the first spot so i don't have to jump around XDDD until someone decides to do KMS and JMS and then i have to jump between 1-4 every fail

 

I think this is one of many great suggestions, to reach the goal of incentivizing more participation in LPQ and other dead PQs.


1) Matching exp gain/time or slightly making it favoring the "higher learning curve" PQs like LPQ, OPQ, LMPQ, R&J - like you are suggesting.
2) Giving unique item/money making incentives to these PQs (chance of cash? Unique scrolls? gachapon?)
3) Party finder options
4) Buffing the unique PQ rewards (Goddess wristband, broken glasses, R&J pendant)
5) Hundreds of other options that people have suggested over 6 damn years that I have been here.


Again, you are making a good point but there are 10 different threads I can think of that have suggested similar things to what you are suggesting here over the last just 2 years. Unfortunately, until staff actually decides to listen to honestly a really common feedback by so many players over so many years, rather than personally-motivated projects like "I want to change buccaneer transform to have no CD even though no one asked for it, add new cash items, add new RP items, etc", nothing will change as was the consistent pattern for the last 6 years.

 

It was the opposite for me in Royals, one of my first few LPQs saw myself getting yelled at for not knowing JMS. Apparently it was all the rage in GMS which I never played? Which I find unbelievable since I remember even convincing people to do the alt 1/2 was enough of a struggle.

The core issue is how badly this PQ is designed with all the nonsense concentrated in this stage, and the several climb-and-hit-boxes stages quickly feeling like a chore. The range requirement is terrible for Royals since the low leveled ranged characters are also the biggest washers. Generally I would not advise messing with PQs because of the nostalgia involved but I wouldn't mind stages 8 (boxes) being changed to be less of a headache, and maybe the platforms on stage 7 being moved closer so mages can cover the range requirement.

On topic: I think CPQs are straight up cancer, drama sources, ServiceStory'd, have lost their meaning etc. (though it didn't stay truly competitive in the original game for long either, I say this as someone who experienced CPQ1's official debut). But many people have invested into mules and equipment to sell leech or leech themselves so you'll encounter plenty of opposition to it being changed. The necklaces are also good beginner equipment.

 

There is something not sure every1 knows but u can still receive the wrong/clear from the system if 5 stand on boxes (ex: 5 ppl stand on box #1 will receive a wrong from system). I figured it out on my only time solo this pq (also test sometimes when i host pq as leader). I assume 1 of my char stand at the edge of the box made the system thought i was stand on the next box. Is it possible to fix it (the system only answer when 5 ppl stand at different boxes)?

 

What's a R&J pendant? I think i support party finder option the most, it's a simple way to find parties around the maple world. The exp isn't bad in LPQ, but maybe an unique reward would be good. Maybe gachapon tickets during the bonus stage of LPQ? Or just making broken glasses buffed idk.

 

"CPQ1 and CPQ2 dominate the leveling process for players within the level range of 30 to 71"

Why not just buff Ludi Maze PQ ;^)

 

CPQ and CPQ2 isnt the problem,
In my opinion, more than a nerf, it needs a readjustment, to avoid the abuse of the leech of wash characters, which at least requires (100cp from CPQ1, and 200 from cpq2) from the participant to receive the exp bonus, and is not hard to get it in 10 minutes.

 

Never met anyone who brings their washed characters to CPQs.. but never the less, the problem is the exp and the TW abuse, which makes levelling far too easy in for levels 30-71.

 

You’d actually find CPQ2 not a problem in this server. Most times cpq2 lobby is empty, its because by then leech is more efficient (51-70).