Bishop's Guide 2022, [Horntail Guide!]

Extra int from mw20 wont add when u use apr only when u lvl up

 

Also, echo doesn't provide any int, just tma (and it applies AFTER potions, so yes it multiplies that 220 tma cheese by 1.04x)

 

Does this count for hall of fame? Yeah I know it's not gear but it's still like a perf weapon's worth of APRs

 

Hi, does anyone know the reason why I am not able to get the letter from the 3rd job NPC for the 4th job advancement?

 

wolf spider/ulu2 at lvl 75 isnt that a bit to soon?
im lvl 77 and it takes forever to kill them
im grinding myself since this is my first charector on the server and i cannot afford to leech

 

Those are meant as party content, not to solo by yourself. If you're soloing you're probably stuck at MP3 for a while, try your best to get into PPQ

 

Ty
i havent dont PPQ before so gotta look a guide up for that

 

Lf> hall of fame

 

any1 can help w hp wash for a bish? <3

 

Jooon's guide has a section for HP Washing and it's up-to-date. Do a search for "HP Washing" minus the quotes and you should see it. There's a new method and it allows Bishops to wash more efficiently.

 

yea i read it but still dont understand little part. i supposed to save ap points? thanks!

 

Its something like this:

1. After reaching ur goal tma (for example tma to 1 hit skele) u start to add all fresh ap to mp.
2. When reaching enough mp use 1st job SPR to get "improvd maxmp increase" skill to 0.
   
3. Use apr to -mp +hp untill reaching goal hp.
   
4. Use apr to -mp +int.
   
5. Use SPR to take maxmp skill back to lvl 10.

 

Thanks for responding! When do that, will i loose INT or i will get all the ap back to int?

for example:
Say i have 100 ap.
1) +100 ap to MP
2) Reset "improvd maxmp increase" skill to 0
3) APR -mp +hp 70 times to reach HP goal (say 5500)
4) APR -mp +INT 30 times (which will make me loose 70 points)
5) Use SPR to take maxmp skill back to lvl 10.

Or
Say i have 100 ap.
1) +100 ap to MP
2) Reset "improvd maxmp increase" skill to 0
3) APR -mp +hp 70 times to reach HP goal (say 5500)
4) APR -mp +INT 100 times (which will be like taking ap from nothing)
5) Use SPR to take maxmp skill back to lvl 10.

Still, I am bit confused but i think that with an actual example i will understand.

Thanks!

 

The 2nd is correct. There is only 1 problem if u reach the minimum mp of mage which makes u cant pull anything from mp to add back to int anymore. After adding 1 ap to either hp or mp u can use apr to -mp +hp any times u want (untill mp reach minimum mp).
Iirc need 1000mp to trade for about 750hp

 

What is MANA?

 

MP

 

Now that it seems Rose Garden isn't going anywhere, Angel Ray is worth maxing by 170 (work on Holy Shield or Infinity later).

I see some newer bishops excitedly hitting 170 and then realising it takes 20 minutes to Genesis the boss to death because they maxed Holy Shield early in accordance with traditional wisdom.

 

is it possible to hp wash a bish at 200?

 

Yeah but it's inefficient. You can create more Mp at a rate of 2 APR for 10 Mp plus a total of a 20 first job Spr, and while you're doing that convert Mp to Hp at the best rate:
1) Int -> Mp (at a rate of +30mp per APR)
2) Mp Increase Skill -> 0 (for 10 1st job Spr)
3) Mp -> Hp (at a rate of -20mp for +15 hp per APR)
4) Mp -> Int (at a rate of -20mp per APR)
5) Mp Increase Skill -> 10 (for 10 1st job Spr)

In other words 5 APR for 15 Hp or 1 APR for each 3 Hp... it is painful but if all you need is a bit more, that's one way.

EDIT: SEE REPLY BELOW FOR A WAY TO GET BETTER RATES from -hp +mp having different values than +hp -mp.

With these rates in mind it is better to:

1) Mp Increase Skill -> 0 (for 10 1st job Spr)
2) Mp -> Hp (at a rate of -20mp for +15 hp per APR)
3) Mp Increase Skill -> 10 (for 10 1st job Spr)
4) Hp -> Mp (at a rate of -10hp for +29mp per APR)

which is how you get the +5hp +9mp in Sylafia's post. Thanks!

Note that you might not actually need to create more Mp. A bishop with 2.5k/30k can just skip steps 1 and 4 to convert to 10k/20k, which is better.

 

Rates are slightly better:
When you go back and -HP +MP, you lose 10 HP (when you gained 15 on average) to gain 29 MP (only 9 MP gained, not 10)

Meaning 2 APRs = 5 HP + 9 MP, and since HP is worth slightly more than MP, it's about 15 MP equivalent/2 APRs or 7.5 MP equivalent/APR. The SPR cost is fairly minor as you can spam -HP +MP / -MP +HP a ton of times before needing to use them, unless you're very close to 30k HP/MP, in which point you should stop washing and just finish up with olaf/ellinia hp quest/gear to hit 30/30.