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  1. Cynn
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    Regarding Kennys recent messages

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    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/s-chance-to-win-more-appo-s-appo-from-henesys-casino.229802/

    I would like to know a more defined reason why this form of gambling is banned while assured book service and WS service is allowed. While @Moeyuki was doing at a very cheap rate, the people doing book service are wagering mesos at a very favorable rate to make mesos. I think both WS and book service should be allowed, as its a nice option to have for certain players.

    What if someone started hosting pooled apples winner takes all Russian Roulette in the lounge?

    DickDann smega’d betting apples coin flip heads or tails, is that also not allowed?

    What if I wanna bet my friend 20 apples I clear Krex faster than him, isn’t that a form of gambling?

    Would like some concrete answers so the rest of the community knows and to prevent potential blatant loopholing.
     
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    it is not allowed even the odd is fair.
     
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    I mean book service odds heavily favors the seller.

    If its because it’s disruptive to the community then I’d like it outlined.

    Henesys Gambling has increased the price of apples 2-3m already
     
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    u mean 600k?

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    shutting down "in-game" bets to win "in-game" prizes , im lost.
     
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    I think there is a pretty clear difference between gambling for the sake of gambling, and guaranteed book/scrolling services. The former is an entirely player-invented game, that people participate in because they want to gamble. The latter serves an actual useful purpose and is actually related to the maplestory game mechanics - the buyers of the service are buying it avoid some risk.

    It's also a bit like how although insurance and casinos are both gambling, insurance is generally seen as a wise investment, whereas going to the casino is not.
     
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    I think they mainly focus on the RWT money laundry issue, which is fair to me.
     
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    Yeah I was wondering about that this morning. i.e. is it covered under the due diligence rule?
     
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    Casual gambling as a fun game is okay. But a large-scale gamble is prohibited. The main reason for shutting it down is possible rwt involvement and meso laundering (yes this does exist). It is even worse when such activities are brought into other private platforms such as discord.

    On the other hand, if players truly love the concept of gambling, I am not against implementing official casinos via NPC or some other methods. I proposed it once and didn't move anywhere
     
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    What, we can't have fun until the mythical autoban is finally done? They will just launder in the other thousand ways they can.
     
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    official casino would be cool but I would still be concerned about RWT issues.
     
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    Official casino would be dull. Players coming together to create a fun little event was the most fun I've had in weeks and it's sad to see it shut down like this.

    It's not about the gambling. It's about the quirks of player interaction.
     
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    OFFICIAL GAMBLING NPC INBOUND!
     
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    I don’t think services qualify as gambling when they have an end result in sight. There are a lot of risk adverse players who may have had bad scrolling sessions that just want to limit their losses. Some of the items we see today are priced in a way that buying the clean base and assuming you use 70 ws/10% are about break even or little loss

    There is profit to be made in these services and it’s no secret it’s in their favor, but this comes at the risk of the service provider which can easily go on a bad streak. Since they don’t have unlimited mesos their risk of ruin is actually quite high

    I also think player to player gambling encourages shady behavior like complicating the process in order to get higher odds than advertised. As well as obvious outright scams which just add more workload for staff
     
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    I think if you are worried about the RWT problem, what you should solve is the RWT of abnormal accounts instead of simply blocking this emerging activity. And after I have asked some people, it does not violate the regulations. Add new rules in case. Another idea I have is whether it is possible to issue a trustworthy dealer and make the player eligible to ask the other party to provide relevant information for identity verification, reduce the chance of RWTER, and allow players to have a more official private casino, I think NPC The casino is not what players want to see, and if you don’t want the casino to be diverted to a separate discord server, I think a better way is to add a channel to the official discord server so that gamblers and dealers can A place where you can place bets and ensure the authenticity of the forum,
     
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    1) I guess those gambler is really having a fun games. At least there is new thing and not just leeching/boss-ing/buy EQP low in market and sell it high like businessman.
    Do you see any gambler complaint about this new event ?
    i guess we started to complaint because there is someone using “VAC “, we just report and make RMS environment is good.

    2) how many people consider casual gamble ?
    For example: 5-6 of guildmate/ buddy list, we just having bet on it. Does this legal ?

    3) Apple is 7m, what’s if we lucky on winning streak and up to 700m, we can buy better EQP/ Scroll it by ourself. And not like buy those Expensive staff in FM.
    If we on bad luck, we just lose apple and go back to APQ and farm it.
     
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    Why do we need a specific casino when we already have ~cs anyways?


    ... although an in-game casino using mesos would probably be a good sink, I guess
     
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    bring back the casino, apples shot up from 6.5m to 7-8m <3
     
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    we are making apple price goes up
    Everyone should happy ~
     
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