On the off-chance PB ever makes its appearance...

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    "Monster Magic Damage Touch Damage
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    Anego 19k 12k
    Horntail 7.8k 23k
    Pink Bean 19k 23k"

    Holy shit PB.

    So I've throwing out a bunch of my queries here on forums recently, think I'm too hyped to get back to playing lolol, hope you guys don't mind >< while most people have chosen to HP wash sufficiently to tank hits from Horntail, do any of you still continue donning Int equips when leveling after reaching your desired HP for Horntail (i.e. not wear it all the time, but switch to it just before leveling), to have a larger pool of spare Int to wash just in case PB appears? Is that a good idea, or do most people just not care and think either Pink Bean is unlikely to ever be implemented or that they'll just make a new character when it happens?

    I know for me, I'd hate to part with a character I've devoted that much effort into, but I also am not rich enough to do a @Christopher Chance and go 30k on all of my non-mage characters. However, I do plan to get to 19k-ish HP for my DK-to-be so it'll be 30k with HB (so this isn't an issue), 5.6k HP on my corsair-to-be and unresearched-appropriate-amount-of-HP for my shadower-to-be. Would 5.6k HP be sufficient considering how Battleship works (I've no idea how it does completely yet haha), and what sort of end-game HP should a shadower be going for, in both cases of no PB or PB?

    The hilarious thing is, all of this is being asked for characters I don't have yet xD (but I hope to work towards most, if not all, of them real soon). Just curious as to what stance the HP-washing higher-levels have towards the non-existence yet prospective appearance of PB. Thanks for satiating my curiosity lolol :p
     
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    If you're serious on one account, asking ~12b to wash nearly any character to 19k HP is a good investment. Base stats can easily be changed with AP Resets, but the same can't be said about HP. At least, that's how I'm going to approach it.

    5.6k HP is fine for a Corsair.
     
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    you want 11.5k HP on a corsair if you want to do PB (even then you will need HB). I try to wear my int equips if i have my mage available for trade, even though I already reached my MP goal on my hero and sair (to wash into HP later), but if I'm in krex or something and i lvl, i usually dont wear my int equips. Thats ok though, since i still have 150+ base int on my sair, so i end up getting enough for 1 wash per lvl even without my int equips lol
     
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    Kinda off topic

    I couldn't see them implementing anything that REQUIRES washing. If I am a level 200 NL unwashed and PB WAS released I have the right to boss as anyone else.

    Just how I see it I guess
     
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    i disagree. you dont REQUIRE washing to pink bean. you wont survive, but nothing is stopping you actually going into the map and fighting it. Being able to fight and survive pink bean is not a requirement to enjoy this game, so I could see it being implemented into royals. Besides, if you want something bad enough, you'll work for it :)
     
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    I see your point.

    I see it both ways because for me washing isn't nastolgic, but neither is PB so why do I care :D

    I'm just jelly I didn't wash but still wanna PB

    There happy f3
     
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    Fking tell me about it -.-
     
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    wait, so luckylook is your "not washed enough to PB dammit but im lvl 200 already so fml" NL and luckyloook is your "god dammit, i started over in case pink bean comes out -___-" lvl 190 NL? i just made that connection o.o
     
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    r u judging my knowledge

    Assuming 18.5k HP needed after HB, so ~11.5k HP before, and Meso Guard taking away half the damage, 6k would be a good amount.

    6,000 * 1.6 = 9,600 HP after HB
    9,600 * 2 = 19,200 damage you can tank
     
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    Thanks for your responses guys :D

    So to summarize, the ideal boss-tanking HP for my characters(-to-be lol) would be:
    - Corsair: 5.6k HP (PB-less), 11.5k HP (PB) - would require HB (but either way I'll have my own DK or I trust the server has enough active DKs to see them around boss runs xD)
    - Shadower: 6k HP (regardless) - would require HB & Meso Guard
    - DK: 19k HP (regardless) - HB for life :3

    For my currently lvl 70 gunslinger, I'm training it with 111 Int in total from equips (but 4 base Int :3), can probably get it to 120-130 soon. I would prefer not to add base Int to save on AP resetting. I'm also shit at calculating for HP washing as of now, so will appreciate help for these:
    - When will I hit my target HP of 5.6k? I started having 111 Int per level since lvl 30, and will probably level from lvl 70 onwards with 130 Int.
    - If I continue equipping Int equips upon leveling AFTER hitting 5.6k HP, what level would I hit sufficient MP to potentially hit 11.5k HP (if and when PB gets introduced)?
    Basically, that will help me decide if I will continue donning Int equips upon levelling after I hit 5.6k HP, and if I should invest in better Int equips or tweak with my base Int from now on.

    Thank you all!
     
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    i honestly dont know if this is enough for a sair if you want to PB on it. Sairs require 160int total to get one wash, which is 20 HP. It would be ideal to get about 2-4 washes per lvl to comfortably have enough MP to get to 11.5k HP. My Sair had 200 base int and 300 int total. Also from lvl 44-84, I MP washed, giving me a lot of MP. I dont think you have to MP wash, but having more than 120-130 int is better, in my opinion. If you are only going for 5.6k HP, then you have more than enough int
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Ahh that's slightly disappointing, but no surprise, and it actually scares me that I'm even considering amassing sufficient MP for that prospect now /: I've read somewhere that only 8k HP is necessary for corsairs to survive hits from PB, no idea where that figure came from, but I've seen it around several official Maple forums pre-Big Bang. Anyone can confirm or deny the validity of this 8k HP?
     
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    its 11.5k pre-hb. well thats how it was in GMS. if by chance PB does come out, it might come out as a nerfed version? who knows what the staff is thinking
     
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    Trudat, guess I'll just let it amass MP as much as I can afford to haha, thanks :D
     
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    take it slowly. i started washing out my 200 base int after i reached lvl 135. im lvl 144 now and i still have 148 base int xD
     
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    Haha not worried about rushing it really, just slightly bummed about having to decide between spending more and playing a weakened corsair for several levels, or potentially being redundant if and when PB gets implemented. Thanks for your input!
     
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    And even if PB doesn't come out, we can still run into zak's body for fun and live ! ~f4

    that's what I do on my 10.5k hp mm atm

     
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    Pink Bean did make an appearance once. I spawned PB, when I was a GM, at Hackers level 200 party. It didn't go over to well and then I got fired.
     
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    Im going to be making a sair soon, I was planning on having 200 base int and probably around 100 int from gear. Would that be enough to get to 11.5k hp without mp washing? I was planning on resetting the int at lvl 135 and continuing to wear int gear to 175 .
     

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