I would be very interested in seeing your data. I'd say 80m tends to be a fair price for solo harp leech (40m for split), and doing the math, at least from the data I could find. Assuming a lv 130 seller and 78 buyer. - Harps have a base exp of 2720/kill (= 816 buyer exp/kill) - Blood harps have a base exp of 3520/kill (= 1056 buyer exp/kill) - Sky Nest 2 has 15 blood harps and 8 harps (according to Legends at least, since we don't have that info public on royals. Still, seems about accurate) - One mob wave spawns every 7.5 seconds (might actually be 8, I'm feeling generous) This means the maximum theoretically possible EXP in one hour is ~10.73m, which would put them just a bit below 8 meso/exp, and would get a lv 78 buyer almost to lv82, unless some of my base numbers are wrong - if you have data proving above this is possible I'll revisit it. To reach 5 meso/exp (which you said for uwu1, but IDK what your harps threshold is - it should be higher but you didn't mention what it is), you'd need to hit ~16m exp in one hour, which would be enough to get all the way from 78 to lv 83, 66%. I have never heard of anyone getting this much. So as far as I can tell, the only way for solo leech to be considered anything above "not great/bad" for you is for them to charge significantly below 80m/hr. Edit: As for the uwu1, 40m/hr solo is very cheap but also it took them 3 hours to get you from 90->94 solo, and considering ulu is one of the fastest leech spots that does seem quite bad to me.
Ahh come on this is not blacklist worthy, posting people here for in your opinion 'low rate exp/meso' PEople might really do their best and then you decide that bevause you find it bad exp/meso value that the need to be on a blacklist. if you belive it is low exp/meso value dont buy anymore from the seller Iy is a different situation if they leave early or AFK everytime.
I did not upload those players to the "blacklist", but as a matter of clarification on what I got from my experiences with them. I accept your mathematics @Sylafia and as you said above, I did not mention "5 mesos per exp/harps", but in general the discrepancy of exp from one to another is quite huge. According to my data, I assume a condition of fairness since I am willing to pay full amount before hand, without knowing what the rates will be, that is how I give a base rank as "bad/not great" to those Leechers. I do not like to do diligence for Leeching Service, I might consider it for the future, since it will give me better ratio/exp and less confrontation/discussion afterwards. Finally, what is my purpose here is to let Leechers do their job, but do it better, invest your time on your client and do not claim a high/regular price for it, if you can not do. I would not be against paying less for a "not great" service or at least an answer before my payment is done - again, it is on me to do my diligence even for this kinda of regular service, which makes me frustrated that for almost everything in such a small community to be doing - or let me know you are not willing to invest a full hour of your life for mesos and then we can discuss a fair condition for the service or with less impacts on me. I am not willing to bring the discussion further, there are plenty of good Leechers out there, unless I am dumb enough to spend mesos on lower ratio services, I might give less opportunity for others not-wellknown Leechers from now on. I like to help, not to get ripped off.
I am not here to bring those guys to the blacklist, I think I wrote it in the wrong place. I did so, because I saw one IGN that I recognized and it is doing the same thing that did to me, which I feel it is unfair to do not let others know about it. For the others, I can remove or move to another area, but will be willing to share my experiences for others to have in mind and do not give their mesos away if there are better services.
I think you should make a separate thread on leechers and their rate/performance, the data would be valuable for the community
Blacklist for IGN: Starx Reason: The reason is that he stole an apple from a fellow member of my guild, and not only that, but I see that he also trolled a team, he only made 2/4 runs in apq and got out, during his 2 runs I saw that he was afk according to the smega, I will note it in my blacklist, I leave the thread for you.
Also FYI StarMilk is NOT the same as Starx... that screenshot kinda makes it look like you're talking about me T_T
I did a 2 hr split skele leech with Mathias21. It’s my first time buying leech and did not do epm10. Paid 140m for 2 hours but only 40m exp total, which is similar to ulu2. Seller level 168, partner 117, me 111. I don’t really know how to argue that exp is really bad. I will take it as a lesson and don’t recommend buying leech from him.
there is a pretty big lv difference.. as someone who bought leech from Mathias21 a lot of times (over 5 times) I can say I'm always satisfied.
IGN: keogoinup Reason: Scam Leech Details: He used a smega saying He was selling Leech for 140m, I used tp rock to get to him and he traded me saying he wanted 150. After I called him out he kept repeating "Stop wasting my time" And whispering me that I was in the wrong.
i mean.. was he rude? yes. could this be just a typo in smega? Also yes. Is losing 3m for a vip tp rock worth mentioning someone in the black list? personally id say no.
He was being a dick by repeating "stop wasting my time" And shortly after this went to smega 140 again I discussed this issue with my friends and told me he is known for this. I heard more things I cant recall and dont have screenshots of but I am just warning people about this guy to not buy a leech and get scammed cus of it. Do with the info as you will, its not up to me.
In its current form, this blacklist proposal could be viewed as harassment/defamation by you, because you are making an accusation with very limited evidence, and the evidence shows absolutely no context due to the cropping of the screenshots. You will need to provide uncropped and unedited screenshots with the chatbox fully expanded. Disclosure: I know neither of these people. I just saw this and thought wtf, lol.
The screenshots include all the information I have with this guy next to his spamming "Stop wasting my time" Altho he wasted my time in the end by selling wrong info in his smega. Which he afterwards did again with another smega asking for 140. Eitherway, this is just to warn other people to not tprock to him cus he will leave u surprised.
ah yes, the ULTRA cropped picture with the petty attitude. close to 0% evidence (only the typo and a bit of rudeness from him) and close to 100% accusations.. come cc10 fm, I'll give you a VIP rock and you can call it a day.
I see. Thanks for the info! I didn't know the lvl diff could affect that much and was thinking about rotation-wise that it could result in inferior exp. The other post I read in forum says that split leech is about 36m/hr, but I couldn't figure out how to use the exp calculator to see benchmark the leech result.
What I always do is usually see when I started (LV x at y% xp) then see how much did I get within that leeching time It's pretty easy knowing if the leech sucked or not via how much % you get. Also - take into accountability the level gap as well. Higher lv gap - slightly less xp
Where is your evidence of this second smega? Also, if there is nothing more to see, then you should have absolutely no issue with just posting the unedited and uncropped screenshots. Just do it.