Item Make Super Summer Goggles permanent

I request that the time-limited property of the Super Summer goggles be removed:


These goggles are rarely available from summer cooler chests from the summer event. Here are my arguments:

• We have very few options for eye accessories (see full list in the spoiler below), and this would be a great one for normal players and also players on special challenges like islander or ironman.
• The summer sandals don't melt, so why should the goggles? It makes sense the popsicle face accessory items only last for summer because they're perishable.
• Because the goggles and the cooler boxes themselves are untradable, it won't have major economic repercussions

Spoiler: List of eye accessories

Considerations:

Because there are so few options for eye accessories, a +1watk 3-slot item could actually be best-in-slot for classes that benefit from weapon attack, especially if chaos scrolls are used on this. However, I don't see this as significantly different than people chaosing pilgrim hats or using white scrolls to finish a fur lump cape. If you consider how rare these already are, it's unlikely to have a big meta impact even if people try to chaos every single one that drops (don't we need more cs sinks anyways?). If this is truly a concern, it could be changed to a 1-slot or even 0-slot item without impacting existing ones, because none should exist by now!

Bonus section: Other items that could be made permanent

Spoiler

• Golden pig belt: Actually, this one is already permanent.... but only if it drops from the '?' eggs that come from the pigs in the Lv70-80 map. Why? Who knows, but seems like an oversight. With players walking away with stacks of belt scrolls from this event, it makes sense to let them keep their measly +1 belt regardless of where it dropped.
• Witch's Crimson and Ocean belts:

It goes without saying that islanders would love these. They would also be interesting additions for low-level characters because you can +1 using an easter belt scroll and then use the witch scrolls to try to chaos it to something respectable that doesn't require grinding dojo for your ninth character in a row. Of course I omitted the purple belt because the watk and witch scrolls make it too OP.

 

These kind of items will probably be released with new bosses(I hope...) since its that much OP than we have now.

 

I heavily agree with this post. This adds content for players to grind for and continue playing every seasonal event for years to come. It took me ages to get 6-watt Pilgrim hats on only two characters, which engaged in every Thanksgiving event and continues to do so. Yes to more content!

 

A potential +16 weap attack for basically free sounds really broken... maybe considering this as a end-game boss will be a good idea, but obtained it for free sounds bad for me

 

Potential with 1.5b worth of CS wasted (if no ws) and with the insanely lucky god touch on the scrolls (+5 3x).
It's not that free as you make it to be.
I agree with this post.

 

A potential +16 weapon attack is that, a potential, is not 100% but still there.
Not to mention getting cs nowday is relatively easy, you can get from gacha, zak/Auf and why not with the same boxes from this event, so yeh is basically free.

Now the fact to be lucky is another story but if there's +6 weap attack from pilgrim hat and even 20+ att shoes, then is possible to get a 15+ weapon attack, but ofc is pure RGN.

So yeh still free

 

you are saying "you can get a cs from X, from Y, from Z" and so on like its 80% chance of getting a cs..
the percentage is low and you don't get a cs so often.
people have spent millions on gacha without getting more than 1 cs if any, it's all about RNG as you said.
getting +5 three times in a row is beyond lucky and has a lower chance that 0.5% imo.
I know that it's possible but it's also possible i'll win the lottery tomorrow - it doesn't mean it will happen.

 

Correct but still there don't you think? will be really easy to get this item from summer boxes, all leechers & farmers have more chance to get it then normal people who bossing / chill making this item unfair for everyone who's playing for fun and not for a DPS table. If they set this item as a end-game bossing, wish was my point at all this time, will be fair for everyone. Ofc the chaos & White scroll ratio it's based on my experience + friends experience, but even without that experience, there's some free ways to get CS as i mention before (also i wan't to incluyed the most popular LHC partys)

So yeh still free

 

grinding hard for a specific scroll (that can make an item go worse btw) ain't "free".
you can play for fun and get a cs, while you can grind hard and not get a cs. it's all about RNG bubbah.
adding ANOTHER end-game feature is not needed, and this should be more 'open' to everybody.

I know that it's possible but it's also possible i'll win the lottery tomorrow - it doesn't mean it will happen.

 

Actually we need more end-game bosses since new source lol so this could be a good implement for new end-game bossing, making players keep playing mapleroyals and not quiting after 4 months lol

Well as my main point should be added ay end game content ^^ making this free will be extremely broken for everyone

 

it's exactly a 0.001% chance to +5 three times with WS, but you're right it's not 100. lmao

It's a free-to-play game so everything is free. good job, you're on a roll

What if it was changed to 1 slot to balance the potential and make it similar to Pilgrim hat? Yay game balance, woohoo I did it!

Spoiler: "odds of basically free 16 attack goggles"

Probability of a Series of Independent Events
Result
A:.6 (60%) B:.1 (10%)
Probability of A occuring 3 time(s) = .63 = 0.216

Probability of B occuring 3 time(s) = .13 = 0.001

Probability of B occuring = 1 - (1 - .1)3 = 0.271

Probability of A occurring 3 times and B occurring 3 times = .63 × .13 = 0.000216

Probability of both A and B occuring = (1 - (1 - .6)3) × (1 - (1 - .1)3) = 0.253656

https://www.calculator.net/probabil...&cal4pbr=3&calctype=series&x=Calculate#series

edit: oops i forgot to add the +0 chance so it should be .083 instead of .1. I'm too lazy to change it now, but you get it though

 

1 slot would make it reasonably balanced, but I'd prefer maybe keeping it time limited, adding a custom cheap CS for it (maybe), and then adding a better permanent eye accessory to a boss or something, although we already have decent competition (maybe another eye for warriors/pirates/archers could be useful since specs are their main choice and a pure str/dex acc could be interesting, but thieves have a lot of options with luk scrolled racc masks or toad band, and mages are in a pretty good spot with being able to CS racc masks now) in the eye slot currently, just for stats instead of WA.

 

I think the Cloudy Swimming Goggles also available from Coolers are the Cash Shop equivalent





Edit: I just realized you meant make a custom Chaos Scroll like Ilfa or or Witch's hat. Whoops


I do think a 3 slot version is too OP, I like the 1 slot suggestion. Or add something like Token of Teamwork scroll that just gives everyone a +3 option or something.
We could also just add it to some sort of custom Content....

Maybe we get a summer JQ/PQ? I'd love to see some additions to the events that help new players get something useful. Hell if we're pushing custom content. Add some relevance and content to F. Beach?
Maybe something like "Summer of love" and you could recycle some of the random Valentine's event stuff.

I might be being selfish here though, I'm just tired of everyone and their mother wearing Spectrum Goggles.

Also obligatory:

 

I would be in support of extending the duration of the goggles (maybe ~2-3 months) and reducing the slots to 1, while adding a special event CS as @Sylafia mentioned. This would make them a fun seasonal item to see where you luck falls each year without damaging the eye accessory market

I would not be in support of making them permanent, I think it's far too much power from just a seasonal event as these would be the obvious choice with 3 slots or even 1 slot

 

Making the goggles permanent in any form with 1 slot or 3 slots while still having attack is massively OP compared to what we have now. All you would need is like what... +2 attack on a single CS to outclass most eye accessories, and that's not even including a combined decent roll on stats. For example, think about how much people spend now for, say, a +15 or more luk eye... and how many of those even exist (both tradeable and untradeable). You don't even need to discuss the +16 max attack potential. Also, pilgrim hat is not comparable to this item... at all.

As for making them temporary with attack, I'm not sure I really like that idea either, but there are similar items already, such as temporary rudolph noses or witch belts. So, that idea is not outlandish, and could freshen up summer events.

Eye accessories are in a good spot now (by 'good', I mean they've received a lot of attention already). Let's not forget that eye accessories used to have 3 slots, and they got buffed to 5 slots along with new eye scrolls for each stat. If there is new content in the future, in my opinion a new eye accessory should not be considered at all. If anything, face accessories are lacking, with most players having to rely on seasonal events or gacha (nose, leaf) for a face accessory grind.

I personally would propose that the goggles become similar to the 'Sweet First Love' face accessory that also sees a return seasonally

Spoiler: Sweet First Love

So, make the goggles permanent, with three slots (or five if you want to update them to be in line with the eye accessory slot buff), and remove the attack, leaving it at +1 all stats. Adjust rates accordingly. Not every new item/refresh has to result in a best-in-slot contender.

As for the bonus comment on witch belts, I think attack on belts should be reserved for VL belts (as was pointed out in a way). I think a new seasonal stat-ed belt that is permanent other than the golden pig belt is a fine addition to the game and would freshen up Halloween a bit to be honest... dojo sucks. There is room to be creative here with scrolls and stats, nice idea.

Lastly, on the subject of eye accessories, I think the real crime is this.

Spoiler: lmao

 

Could just make Chaos not work on them like we do with the HTP that way we can keep the 3 slots. Probably the easiest way to balance

 

I thought this was already the case. Are these goggles not already in the game with attack and three slots? As a drop from cooler boxes? Maybe I'm mistaken.

At any rate, I would prefer a solution that makes it permanent but replaces the ATK and Matk with stats that are not as endgame viable (acc, HP, speed, jump, etc). Because temporary gear is usually largely ignored by the player base unless it's a strict upgrade like ring of xmas spirit or anni golden pendant.

 

Sorry, I meant temporary with attack with a longer duration like how @Nerd outlined (i.e. making it a temporary viable BiS item).

But yea like I said, I think there is a pathway for these to be permanent, so long as the attack is removed. If done correctly, I think that would be refreshing.

 

Chaos works on HTP though?

 

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