Night Lord / Shadower HP Washing Above 20k HP

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    I meant to quote this from the actual first page and guide directly. I forgot to show which 1 is which. So here is the full wording again.
     
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    would like to confirm
    1) if i invest only ONE fresh AP into MP
    2) then i -MP to +HP
    3) and again -MP to LUK(if i have enough washable MP) <- i can still do this with just one fresh AP in HP/MP right? i was worrying whether i would be wasting stats on HP or not able to -MP to LUK at one point

    because im planning to wash my MP to LUK first to equip Pirate Pants to do daily HP potion quest
    im not washing my base INT yet because i want to increase my MP pool a little bit more
     
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    You can only wash as many AP as you have put into MP. So if you put 1 into MP then -MP +LUK/STR/DEX/INT (whichever you need to put it in) you can do that ONE time.

    If you do 1 into MP then -MP +HP it is as many times as you have extra MP. And then when you no longer want to add to HP, you can then -MP + LUK/DEX/STR/INT (whichever you need to put it in)

    I separate these because they are very different. One is as many times as you want. The other is only 1 and done.
     
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    thank you so much for taking your time to answer!!
     
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    Hi there , im new here (have a bs ) wanted to start washing my NL aiming 25k hp as other hp quest can be done for additional hp . So basically from level 1- 70 ..i just add my 5 ap to int then start from 71 -120 add 5 ap to mp then wash back to hp ? have int gear of 110 and which to get zak hel on lvl 50 . so should i wash abit first ?sorry i abit confuse
     
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    A lvl 50 Thief will not naturally have enough HP for zak.

    You'll either need:

    HP-Gear
    HB
    Double Ress
    Done some prior HP washing
    Any combination of above

    HP-Gear is very cheap to scroll yourself. Then you also have some for whenever you make another char or sell Zhelm Service later and some buyer shows up with 2k hp (again)

    HB and Double Ress is not always as available as you'd like. Sometimes you need to pay a little more, they might charge you 80m instead of 60m

    Some Prior HP Washing will not cut into your total extra mp gains if you do the thief thing (fresh AP into HP, APR to INT/LUK)
     
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    In the guide, if you follow along as I have written it, you will be able to zak without HB or HP equips. Specifically states in the "ADDITIONAL IFORMATION BETWEEN LEVEL 31-70" information list.
     
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    @PerfectSin Hey, been on and off royals. Appreciate the guide.
    So my INT goal was 280, If im following this guide correctly. from 71-135 its mp washing, since i reach my int goal. i dont need to use aprs or distrubute the fresh ap untill later on?
    Also, i was wondering at this rate. What would my HP be at around lvl 150?
    I will also have access to MW20 and will be leeching myself
     

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    mp-washing from 93 to 135 (+5 ap from 4rth job) = 43*5*28 = 6020
    from leveling = 43*39 = 1677

    6020+1677 = 7697 extra mp to wash with

    You gain some extra from 4rth job as well iirc. Idk how much
    I believe leveling gives you some range as well. Not sure how much either.

    Regardless, you'd be looking at at least 6020+1677+5584 = 13281 mp
     
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    @Kheb is correct. Ez Maths.
     
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    As a non funded new Shad. I've been following this guide. Almost level 30. But I have no dmg. What can I do? I actually have some funds but not enough. 550m+ A couple of valued items such as a 1 attk red sock with 7 slots. A 53 Skanda. Some itcg etc items of value. Any suggestions or tips??
     
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    If you are non funded, I really do not recommend HP washing this heavily. To follow my guide you should be funded for getting your character leeched. Being leeched would make having no damage a non issue. At level 70 you could bomb bigfoots though. But that requires mesos to explode.
     
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    Thanks. But I'm level 26 right now. I was following your guide actually. What should I do??

    I followed from the start of 1-10

    Level 11-30


    Put All AP into INT as you level up until level 30.
     
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    Either buy leech until 70 or make a new character and don't wash it. Maybe you could grind at lv 50 if you get a really good zhelm and immediately stop adding AP to int, but it'll still be slower than remaking.
     
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    A friend I met online told me to restart and just hp wash at 135. I'd be spending 1.1b+. Thanks for the replies.
     
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    Hi im a lv 158 shad got 11481 hp and 15536 mp. why cant i use apr and put -mp +hp? it wont let me do that. please help :)
     
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    you need atleast one ap in either mp or hp to use an apr using hp or mp , you can recycle this ap and do as many -mp+hp as your mp allows you to, then use an apr to do -hp+luk to get that ap back when you're done.
     
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    Hi there! I'm having a hard time understanding the above instructions. I'm currently level 30, so every level up starting now: If I have 60+ extra MP, I use all my fresh AP to +HP -> use APR to -MP +INT (until I reach my INT goal). || OR If I have <60 extra MP, I use all my fresh AP to +MP -> use APR to -MP+INT (until I reach my INT goal).
     
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    That is correct. More than 60 EXTRA MP = HP wash. Less than 60 EXTRA MP = MP wash.
     

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