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It's normal right now. If you mean changed to reflect how it was in GMS v0.83, then you'll just have to wait and see

 

I think bfs are good the way they are, they are by far the best exp in the game, and taking away the i frames will just make it easier

 

So just keep it bugged ? Good idea

 

Well is it really bugged or was it inteded to be that way? Its not like only one mob in the game has I frames. Elder wraiths, bigfoot, horntail legs. "Fixing" this will just make the lives of nightlords even easier

 

Pretty sure it should be fixed in v83 :O

 

The point he's trying to make is if its a fix or a nerf. Example, Female Boss got a lot weaker later on (not sure in 83 as well), but it doesn't mean her 62 damage was a bug.

 

^ this just seems like a nerf to me, I dont see anything wrong with bigfoot the way it is. It makes it so warriors are actually better than nls at something

 

It's not about nls
Bms / MMs and even sairs have hardtime killing bf with the correct hitbox ( I know a lot of people who can't solo bf Because of this)

 

But again the point being made is, that doesn't necessarily make it a bug.

This isn't something I would put in a Bug Report thread to be fixed for example.

 

As a ranged class(sair), I don't think it should be easy to control and lock bf into walls BUT ranged class have high dps output and it feels bad when we need optimal positioning to hit 2/3 of our attacks.

I feel even worse for NLs, one of the best attack speed in the game but only half their attacks hits.
There are arguments both for and against it.

^^ edit:
I dont think it's a bug either but Nexon did "fix/change" this in some version.
It's hard to make a statement with Nexon's logic

 

The way I think about it is, with the current I frames bfs are amazing for warriors, anegos are amazing for ranged. If this were to be "fixed" then ranged attackers could kill anegos and bfs incredibly easily, and warriors would just be left in the dust. This is coming from someone who is fairly close to being finished with their hero and is going to move onto a sair, most likely before the new source.

 

Yet there are like 70 BF maps daily and 30 anego maps daily. (+ if every warrior had SI like how every night lord has SE then maybe their damage wouldn't be so low).

Also heroes can slay anegos easily with bookshelf and have ToT so there really shouldn't be any talk about heroes being under-utilised. It's more of, who can invest time into searching for bosses and mesos for attack pots. While Nightlords get 2/5 hit frames at bf and some other classes that can't pin Bf due to the frames and therefore can't even attempt BF (i.e. Buccaneer unwashed, shad unwashed, etc).

You moving to a sair means you will be able to kill everything quickly, doesn't really give you a ranged perspective. (Since sairs can get no frame issues).

In my opinion saying big foot should not be changed because it's the only thing warriors can take advantage of is silly.

 

You also have to consider the difference in exp compared to Anego, the amount of competition, the incredibly variable respawn time, and the staggering quantity of maps to check.
NLs and archers can kill bigfoot as it is. It's still possible, it's just more difficult. As such, all classes can grind at ToT, but some are better than others. Even with a sensitive hit box, a well-funded NL and hero are both able to do a ~4 minute bigfoot on stoppers.
For the most part, warriors don't kill Anego because it takes longer than is worth your time. If bigfoot were made to be like Anego, warriors would be terribly outclassed because warrior classes have an underwhelming 1v1 dps in comparison to ranged classes, even with SI.

The current state of i-frames means that you have to time your attacks intelligently, or change your weapon to one with a favourable attack speed. Taking away the hitbox would make bigfoot a punching bag for all classes, because the hitbox serves to balance its ridiculous exp:hp ratio.

 

I'm an unwashed shad & I can solo BF...

&&&& Basically, everything @Forsberg just said one post up.

 

A unwashed level 70 Chief Bandit can solo bf, let alone a shad....

 

not without mesos explosion o-o

 

Ohohohohohoh will cc dc be a thing with the new source?

 

Drk kill Bigfoot Runaway

 

I'm kind of late to the party here, but will the new source fix any graphics bugs encountered on the mac client? I know I shouldn't be trying use the mac client for bossing, but I'm just hopeful it might get fixed. My work-arounds aren't doing too good on this front