(Cheaper?) Alternative to Traditional HP Washing?

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Is this method cheaper?

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  1. 1Minh
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    *I think this only works for Buccaneers

    Hello, new player here and I didn't learn about HP washing until reaching about lvl40 on my brawler.
    I didn't add any base int while leveling so I thought that I would have to remake my character.
    That is until I learned about an alternative method in @Donn1e 's Buccaneer guide.

    upload_2024-10-1_22-4-33.png

    This method utilizes Bucc's Improved MaxHP increase skill
    upload_2024-10-1_22-8-40.png

    If we change the steps to

    1. Add fresh AP into HP
    2. Use 10 SP resets to reset improve MaxHP to 0
    (Don't do this step until you've calculated how much extra HP you want and added enough fresh AP into HP accordingly)
    3. Use an APR: -HP +STR
    4. Net gain: 20HP per AP used

    From my research, I think this method is cheaper than the traditional method of adding AP to get base INT because for every 10 INT you have on level up you gain 1 MP.
    For the calculations, I will use 200 base INT as an example.
    If you start adding AP into INT at lvl 1, you will have 200 INT by lvl 40. That's 20 extra MP for every level from lvl 40 - 135.
    At a minimum, you will have gained an extra 1900 MP by lvl135. (This does not account for the extra MP gained from lvl 1 - 40)

    Buccs wash at a rate of -16 MP +40 HP per APR

    1900MP / 16MP = 119 washes

    119 x 40HP = 4760 Bonus HP

    200 washes to wash out the base INT

    Traditional Method Total: 319 APR, 4760 Bonus HP

    Now for the SP reset method

    4760 HP / 20 HP per wash = 238 APR + 10 SP resets (2.5k NX each)

    SP reset method Total: 238 APR + 10 SP reset, 4760 Bonus HP

    Using this method you can wash the same amount of HP at a lower cost.
    Please correct me if I'm wrong






     

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    It’s a good idea (if it actually works) to allow u to start hp wash at high lvl or not to leech.
    Dont forget to involve int gears in the trad hp wash method. But still this method seems cheaper.
     
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    You can also just slowly rose garden for hp now.

    Since buccs have improving hp, you would buy the MP potion, it has better ratio than HP potion.

    Dont remake your bucc
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong (I've never done Rose Garden) but you need to exchange 20 shiny flowers for a gain of 20 MP.
    80 shiny flowers for 80 MP. At a rate of -16MP +40HP that's 200 HP
    The flowers can be exchanged for 5m each, so 200 HP would cost 400m
    200 HP using this method would only cost 10 APRs, or 120m
     
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    they cannot be exchanged for 5m anymore.
    but you can exchange 5 shiny powder to 25 totems so its not like you can't get money from it, just hard to give an exact answer for how much money
     
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    Is there an estimate on how much 5 shiny powder would yield on average?
     
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    My profit tracking spreadsheet estimates them at around 4m per bee (800k/totem)
     
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    This is my results so far

    3500 totems = 1cs, 1ws, 1taru
    500 totems = 1ws, 1taru
    8000 totems = 3cs, 1ws, 1taru, 1bwg
    875 totems = 0
    875 totems = 0
    875 totems = 1ws
    775 totems = 1ws
    750 totems = 1 bwg
    675 totems = 1 bwg
    850 totems = 0
    775 totems = 1 cs
    850 totems = 1 cs
    900 totems = 1 taru
     
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    So slight nerf from 5m to 4m
     
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    The main differences are the fact that its rng based now, and the fact that its not pure meso, but valuable items instead
     

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