Closed P/C> Maple Shield 6att 8slot?

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    Price check on maple shield 6att 8slot?
     
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    Around 350m
     
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    Bro and maple shield 9att 7 slot?
     
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    Around 1b-1.1b
     
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    Thnx! you are the best!
     
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    Not true.
    3att,9slot - 45m-55m (This is DEFINITELY the base price for +1s)
    Statistically, 6att,8slot should fall between 150m-200m.
    Nostalgia recently sold a 12att,6slot for 1.2b a/w. So there's no way a 9att,7slot is 1b+
    Half finished are usually on a grey area, but your best bet if you're intending to sell a 9att,7slot.. Is 500m-600m range. As simple as that.
     
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    Hmm, good point. Go with market statistics rather than straight forward pricing.
     
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    12 att 6 slot was max mesos fyi, not 1.2b** (unless that was a typo) and that was only because i wanted the mesos. probably could sell for 2.5
     
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    Yeah, knew that looked strange. 12 Atk 6 Slot sounds like an absolute steal.
     
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    Oops. I didnt re-check your sale post. Either ways my prices still stand for the 9att7slot.

    Shield WA 10%: 2.5m-4m Easy
    Shield WA 30%: 14m-18m Easy

    With these current market prices i highly doubt why people dare to double fold earnings?
    If i buy 100 30% shield wa, i'm gona get more than one +4, and many other weird ones to resell pls. And it wont even cost 2b.
     
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    Well i just feel that way :/ I mean profit margins must obviously be expected for the effort, time & risk taken. But 2.5b is pushing it with current prices lol. But if a buyer is willing, i've nothing to say. Point to note that this is just a p/c? Aren't they all assumptions?
     
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    noyou wont get one +4.

    It takes 3.6b to make a +4 shield.
     
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    K if you want to shoot me a number, lets talk statistics and accounting costs to help you justify yourself.

    I'm pretty sure your costs exclude the other +1 to+3 that you make along the way to derive at the relevant costs. This is not relevant cost that you derived. You discluded the other profit margins that would greatly reduce your 'project costs'. Are those happily absorbed by yourself while you keep showing the irrelevant costs+ relevant costs to justify your item worth? Don't show me the 3.6b figure if you're not intending on providing the accounting table to segregate it. It is politically correct to say it costs XX amount to make the shield, but it is misleading to say it is worth that.

    At the same time your valuation seems to be DIRECTLY exponential, disregarding market pricing behaviour or profits ont he side. This is assuming u regard costs as value, since i realised you always like to bring up costs with valuations in your other posts. So, if we base your valuation methods to price att wg, I find it hard to understand how the prices of Att WGs are like this. 15wa for 1.8b? Count this for me. I'm fed up with excel.

    Example: 10att wg
    I calculated that 99.85m is needed to produce 1 10wa wg. However, I earned 35m (normalized downward from the large sample size) from making 8att wgs ALONE (Not even including 6atts) while producing that 1 10wa wg.

    Overall investment of my project costed 400m to make 4 10wa, 3 8wa, 5 6wa (Some are still with 1 slots, but marked off the table as they failed before reaching 10wa); to review that ONE 10wa workglove. Total return = 740m. Total Cost = 400m. Total ESTIMATED Relevant Cost = 54.85m, to make one 10wa wg.


    This is just to point out that the market is inefficient in finance-terms, and you are just shooting numbers. This point itself also disproves my prices, but thats what I mean, you dont bloody value an item from its total cost. There are other factors.
     
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    I never said the shield was worth 3.6b

    The shield costs 3.6b to make statistically.

    The shield is worth 2-2.5b when sold.

    If you buy 100 shield 30%s, more than likely you will not make a 12 att 6 slot shield.

    End of story. That is ALL that is being discussed here.







    FYI your form of calculating costs is irrelevant in the case of making a 12 attack shield. When you are going for 12 att 6 slot shield, you are using 30%s all the way (or perhaps 10%ing the first slot, but this would be useless as the amount of 3 att 9 slot shields you would need in the first place, you would need hundreds of 10%, which just arent available). You are 30%ing 4 slots, not using GFA 60/70%. That being the case, you are not selling your 9 att 7 slot shields, or your 6 att 8 slot shields. You are only selling 3 att 8 slot shields, 6 att 7 slots shields, or 9 att 6 slot shields.

    The amount of 9 att 6 slot shields you are going to get in this process is going to be 1-2 at the most, if you are lucky. 3 att 8 slot shields sell for fuck all (25m have fun waiting 5 days for it to sell at 25m, I have done this). and 6 att 7 slot shields you are better off throwing some 70s on it and hoping to make yourself a decent shield to sell.

    Your process does not work in all cases, fyi
     

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