Arrow Bomb is supposed to have a 60% stun rate, but it regularly fails to stun monsters even after hitting them with nonstop attacks up to 20 times in a row. This does not occur with Marksman's Blizzard skill, nor Corsair's Blank Shot. A clean restart does not fix this. In case you were wondering whether this is due to observation bias, note that the probability of a 60% stun skill failing to stun a monster after 20 hits is lower than the chance of scrolling a perfect weapon with 10% scrolls and no WS. It is lower than the chance of failing MW20 fifteen times in a row. The stun rate is not 60%.
haven't collected data but I feel stun rate can be lower when hitting more monsters like the assumption of exp sharing, the 60% rate is to some extent "shared" among monsters when hitting 1 monster it does feel like 60% tho
You are correct that Arrow Bomb does have some additional factors that contribute whether the stun procs or not. However, your experience of hitting a mob 20 times without it being stunned seems incredibly unlikely from what I can see, and I'm also unable to replicate it. Could you please explain a bit more about the scenario, were you attacking multiple mobs, or just one? And are you able to knockback those mobs? Most importantly, can you also ensure that your MapleRoyals.exe is set to Windows 7 Compatibility? As for those additional factors: For each mob dealt damage, we check if you proc the 60% chance (if maxed), then we check to see if you have knocked back the mob, if so, the mob is stunned. If you do not knock back the mob, there is a 1/3 chance the mob will be stunned.
Thank you for looking into this. I was fighting Mossy Snails with my 102 ranger, 2.5k range, attacking multiple mobs. I do not knock them back even with critical hits. Compatibility has always been Windows 7 (otherwise freeze skills would not work). My estimate of 20 hits comes from the fact that I would occasionally see Mossy Snails die without ever being stunned, and I calculated based on the assumption that my average damage per hit is slightly less than 3k. If the stun chance is 20%, the chance of no stun after 20 shots is 1.15% which is within the realm of possibility and seems to match my observations. Also, this is the first that I (or anyone) has heard of a knockback requirement for stunning monsters with Arrow Bomb. This is not communicated with the player in any way. If Arrow Bomb is intended to work like this, I'll instead open a feedback thread to remove the knockback requirement because I think it's poor design (and I still stand by the title of this thread; the stun rate nerf was in fact invisible).
The explanation now makes a lot more sense, it initially sounded like not getting a stun within 20 attacks was a fairly common occurrence, rather than your correctly calculated 1.15% chance. The skill is coded to correctly emulate how the skill originally worked. However, I will also admit that the knockback requirement and 1/3 chance if not - is news to me too, and this is not communicated at all in the description. I can only assume it was done this way to simply make the skill feel more impactful when facing slightly weaker mobs that you can KB, compared to harder mobs which you cannot, whilst still keeping a 1/3 chance. Some searching has lead me to a small bit of evidence to support that the skill is supposed to work like this, is a 2006 wiki page where it mentions: I will now be closing the thread as the skill seems to be working as intended. You are of course welcome to create a feedback thread if you wish. I will also make a note to improve the skill description.
