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Unless I missed something, the only evidence I can see is Geto saying LMAO to a somewhat crude and misogynistic joke, which is... eh? I would look into the person that wrote the joke instead.
The rest appears to be mostly finger pointing back and forth. A lot of things got deleted while I wasn't here it seems, so I don't know if I missed something else, but there's not much concrete evidence to go on right now I think.

My opinion is, if we want to include discord and other platforms outside of game/forum, then we should, but only if it's used to encourage others to harass other users or break the game rules. Not saying that did or didn't happen here, just sharing my thoughts on reporting outside communications. A lot of us would probably be seen in a different light if our discord chats got exposed. I would probably be seen as a weird deviant

 

Kay, I'll bite since Foxy's report links to my own post and I was also mentioned by Geto in the attached screenie.
This is gonna be a pretty boring and neutral take aka "I'm not trying to make enemies or pick sides", but I'd like to go ahead and give my side of the story or whatever.

On Geto:
He was usually quite nice to me, but I also couldn't quite figure his character out. I did assume him to be a trustworthy player and perhaps believed him too easily?

When Briefing was banned, he mentioned something about Foxy talking about the ban in Discord and I didn't question it.
Instead, I responded with negativity, stating that staff shouldn't discuss player bans with normal players. (which I think most people would agree with)
This and concerns about Brief's ban are why I made the post Foxy linked.

Geto was actually very defensive of Foxy and it's one part of why he eventually left my guild. Because of that experience, I really don't think he was trying to be malicious towards her.
What Foxy said about Geto screenshotting things I also believe due to some leaks but I don't care enough to look into it.

I also agree with Bunny's comment on Geto laughing at the casual sexism in the server, but that's unrelated to this matter so I won't put anymore focus on it.
Whether you like Geto or not, I'm not sure if he deserved to be confronted in a public area by a GM before being tossed out of his guilds.

With that said, I've done the same shit before so can understand she was probably very frustrated with him.
The wall between player and GM is tricky.

On Foxy:
I previously questioned Foxy's integrity, as you can see in the post she linked. And most of this was caused by people talking.
But "talking" and actual evidence are two completely different things.

It was both wrong and naive of me to blindly trust something a player told me and immediately assume Foxy wasn't a right fit for the role because of it.
I also didn't know the full story on Briefing at the time either.

Some people know that I used to be a GM on a different server. What they don't know is that I quit the role because of negative rumors, just like all of this. It was way too stressful.
I'm not sure why I didn't think back to my experience when forming my opinions on Foxy, because I know how awful and stressful it can be.
And that's exactly why the requirement for evidence is there.

For what it's worth, I have apologized to Foxy in private about this matter and should be judging her character for myself - not from what others say or claim.

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Unless either Foxy and Geto have some proper and clear evidence to backup their stories, then I think we're at a stalemate.

 

WTF are u talking about? I was always nice to you and while you were asking to join Ours in alliance chat a few days ago and sending me hearts you were simultaneously talking shit about me on Ohms discord. You are not the person to talk about fake people.

 

Are you referring to talking about your LHC thing "shit talking"?

I was never fake. All of the things I said are based on actions and that alone.

I can still be your friend and like you (well not now, but before) and dislike your action of the 2 lane LHC thing and share my opinion about it.

Just like I was never fake to either Becky or Heidi, I told exactly what I think and if they ever asked about it, I'd say the same thing.

I never disliked either, on the contrary, Becky was very important to me and I appreciated her a lot. We had many heart to heart conversations and I've considered her a close and trustworthy friend of mine.

Does that mean I can't ever have an opinion on her actions as either a Guild Master or a Game Master?

I find it so tiring talking about private chats that were supposed to stay private.

You (not you specifically) guys are no saints and I guarantee some of you talked about people with other people in private, is it a big deal because it was said? Or is it a big deal because the person that got the private messages made it one?

I think that every side has said their take on it.

In my opinion, it should be just like in court - providing evidence that was received with no authorization to view them in the first place are inadmissible.
This is the equivalent of going to X company and getting Y employee to give sensitive information, then use it in a case or planting a spy to collect information in a big high-tech company or anything like that.

You want to hate me? Sure, it's ok. I'll take it.
But blacklist me over this? Doubt that.

I also did not encourage anybody to say X or Y, I shared my opinions about different things and I stand by them. I won't say my opinions are wrong because it got out to the public.

That'll be my final take and final answer on this submission and follow-ups, and if you have additional info / slander / whatever you guys have in mind, I won't answer.

I'm looking forward to moving on, not staying in place or walking backwards.

Every person is entitled to their opinion so.. you do you.

As a final statement - it was mentioned here that I laughed at a misogynistic joke because it was a misogynistic joke, so first of all I apologize if it looks like that.
I've mentioned a couple of messages above the reason why i said "LMAO". it has nothing to do with the fact that becky is a female. take it with a grain of salt if you still tend to believe to what bunnymon said.

 

Cmon now can we all hug and laugh this away

 

Yes you were. You never talked to me about it f2f. You just talked behind my back.
But whatever. Sometimes it feels like Royals is filled with children in the body of adults

 

Can we get a confirmation from admins maybe @Bacon or some other gm on whether or not private discord chats are considered harrassment when the person discussed is not involved? Its a little concerning when a GM is boldly stating it is harrassment when i think most people would not consider private gossiping or even spreading false rumours (unless at an extremely large scale) as harrassment

EDIT: additionally, i would at least like to raise the concern that the number of restrictive perscriptions (such as above) being defined/instated impromptu have been increasing as of late mostly from gm interns which i feel should not happen unless it is agreed upon by the staff team. As GMs, obviously the players should take their word seriously but if theyre just firing from the hip and theres no cohesiveness with higher up GMs, it blurs the line between actual rules and personal opinions from some GMs

 

Ill take 10 pages of leeching scams or shop bundle scams over 1 post of this current issue. I'm either at worst neutral towards or like all the people involved so it depresses me to be reading all the anger.

 

I believe the person below is my only submission to this blacklist:

I would like to request his removal from the blacklist. I don't know if he's still playing but I honestly let it go a long time ago. And now that I think about it, it was never really worth putting him on the blacklist in the first place.

Lately, I've been feeling that the only real "winners" on the Community Blacklist are those who can live their lives without feeling the need to post anything there.

Maybe if we all let a petty argument go once in a while, our souls would feel less heavy and we could continue putting our time/energy towards peacefully enjoying a mushroom game.

I don't know... just a thought...

 

I don't mean to talk smack but if it bothers you then why tf you still in that discord.. just leave and problem solved.. stop crying about it

 

Everyone is so focused on GETO vs FOXY, But are we really going to ignore the real issue here.

The issue im speaking of is about the individual who set this whole drama in motion, the anonymous person who first posted talking about the "injustice" Geto suffered at the hands/paws of Foxy. (which has been nuked by TIM for breaking the rules)

This Anonymous person clearly has his own vendetta against foxy, but cleverly hid behind anonymity and intentionally used Geto as a way to attack foxy and have Geto be his scapegoat.

As you can tell by 5 page worth of back and forth drama this anonymous person has successfully diverted away all attention from himself and is enjoying the drama knowing he got what he wanted out if this. while foxy and geto try to salvage their own situation.

 

Should we include discord or other platform screenshots as evidence?: Personally, I think it's much too hard to moderate legitimacy since it's easy to fake or take out of context (In general, unrelated to any of the recent situations) Just throwing in my two cents on this part of the discussion.

Personally think should cut a bit on the yap. Provide evidence when reporting. Give evidence when defending or when trying to reinforce your report. Discuss about whether we want to add additions to the blacklist rules or format (As a community). All the evidenceless personal drama should be in private or in other posts.

 

Yup, faking a Discord chat screenshot is way too easy. Editing them requires little effort.

 

You're right. I don't want to part of a community that lets comments like these slide by (and even entertain them). Or one that incessantly shit talks each other behind the scenes and justifies it because "everyone does it". Not everyone does it. Not everyone on the internet sucks.

 

You catch a lot of unnecessary flack for a person who is genuinely all about the grind and gambling. Maybe its time not to be so Friendly to those who don't deserve it.

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IMO, when it comes to being a judge of character online its simple, just look at the track record of the people being mentioned here. I give benefit of the doubt to those who don't give me a reason to doubt them.

Foxy pre-GM was someone I already widely respected and always supported. This is simply purely from the way I've seen her interact with people, maintain her shops ALL around the free-market, and hearing conversations about her (always something positive). For someone who is constantly busy, she brought her GPQ char to meet me because her outfit was similar to mine and we had a great interaction. Her behaviour so far has been exemplary to me anyway. People who disagree or who feel otherwise just bring evidence to back your claims, as how it always should be.

Geto, you got tangled up in some drama awhile ago with some people I know, and you got blacklisted for it. As Royals is such a social game, reputation is everything. I've never heard anything positive about you in any conversation that was brought up (with you being involved) and that concerns me, because I don't even think you know who is actually your friend or not. When multiple sources all converge like this, its highly likely that they're true to an extent. I hope you understand why people will unlikely favour you in ANY situation, simply because of the evidence that lies before us.

Conversations and such are great tells of a persons character, especially those that don't criticize the action, but ridicule the person and attack them instead. Nobody is perfect and I would assume majority of people talk smack about others from time to time. I personally am guilty of frequently clowning Nan1 and Saledor, not because I have any beef with them as individuals, but because they've just become sort of a meme to my friends and I (great content). Would I ever defame them in game just cause of it? No. Would I ever throw personal insults at them? No. I only find their past actions distasteful, but they are entitled to do whatever they want, just like how I'm entitled to cringe and say "yuck" when I see their characters in the Free Market.

Ohms can run their guild however they want, and I'm sure they do it well. I don't think its fair that their leadership be criticized for this sort of thing, they have lives outside the game and prioritize that (as they should). I personally don't prefer SEA guilds even though I am from the region simply because of the "type' of people we get in this region. Too much kpkb and rubbish ingrained deep in our culture.

And please guys, 2025, don't take this game too seriously. Follow the rules and enjoy your nostalgia or you'll be defending yourself for ban evasion again and again and again. Don't get caught in Discord screenshots.

 

It has come to my attention that i myself, (FrappeOrMe/MyeyesOnYou) being reported for “suspected price fixing scam”

First of all to address to that, i would like to clarify this definition of “scam”. In my perspective, scam is cheating/conning and providing details which to someone falls for it and resulting losing a set amount of mesos/items. In which in this scenario clearly the reporter himself did not lose anything. Further more, considering I was providing something he needs, and not selling him a item which is worthless and making him pay above market price than that.

With his attached convos/screenshots, clearly item was listed up in stall on FrappeOnMe at 1.1b for a 6dex 2str goggles. I pm-ed this guy “wubz” after seeing him mega-ed and offered him 1.2b since people always negotiate and hoping he would purchase from my stall in the event if he owls. And surely he did, after him noting that the cheapest exact same stats is 1.1b (in which the item was also from my store). He negotiated saying he would pay only 900m for it. Seeing that offer, feeling that he is trying to lowball me. Yes, I removed it from my stall and telling this guy it’s sold. I then replied “it’s sold since I/anybody with common sense would be surprised and definitely check it out”.

Let me get this point straight, I’m not selling him above like what the reporter stated, 1.2b. You can see his attached pictures, which states at some point of time, lowest i could go is 950m. Considering I was super broke at that point of time trying to sell off that goggles. Secondly, the sale didn’t even went through. Him being a buyer, wanted to buy cheap. I, myself being the seller wanted to sell it off. (But not too cheap). In my stand I dont think I’m

1) trying to scam him
2) selling him something which is if no value (example a snail shell sold to him at 1b, causing him to lose his assets)
3) prices as per 900m was quoted by him, me being the seller doesnt have the right to sell or not to sell?
4) with this report being made, so to say, example if you purchase a crystal ilbi at 200m from cc1-20. The next moment you saw another one selling at 180m at maybe cc2-20? Does that mean that the seller from cc1-20 is scamming?

Anyway, doesnt matter to me if im being in the blacklist for this. In my stand, i dont think im causing any harm like what this reporter said. What im trying to prove here is just straightforward. And neither did I harass him or whatsoever. If so, why the reporter could provide names of my characters which whispered him, but not the characters/convos of him being harassed after the “suspected price fix scam”?

This brings me to a conclusion,
Is this guy cyberbullying? Posting things and fabricating stuffs which is not the full content to get someone in this situation? Or is he trying to make a drama for some fame for himself? Beats me.

Speaking of suspicion, this very guy. Whom can afford a 6dex goggles for 900m only Suddenly made 12/12 2 or 3 slots goggles out in 30mins - 1hr’s time. (He mega-ed in game after the 950m last msg to him)

Unfortunately, as it wasn’t a sucessful sale. I did not have any screenshots or convos of it. All I can say is, prolly this guy was just being salty with his desired item being removed and not being able to purchased it at a real cheap price. I even wanted to offer him a mega phone for him to purchase it somewhere if he thinks mine was expensive.

Let the community decide on my blacklist. Cheers

 

Hi,

Like I mentioned previously, I don't really care if you're on the blacklist, this post was for visibility so that other players can avoid these types of situations. If OP wants to take you off this list, then that is totally fine by me.

You removed it from your stall and told me it sold so that you can entice a sale. That is not great behavior, even going to lengths to telling me "I don't see it on the Owl," when you didn't even owl, you OWNed the item. While you didn't necessarily scam me, you attempted to do so by price fixing and lying.

Nope for visibility so that other players are aware, not necessarily of you, but different ways people can manipulate you in game

I'm a lucker dog, if dogs are suspicious, maybe ban pogdog

I was not salty I couldn't get at a cheap price, I was salty at the fact that people go to extreme lengths to close a sale.

Thanks for responding though, hopefully you don't try to do that to someone else in the future.

 

With due respect, you said that "they still pm you even after the whisper from me do you, please provide igns here for a better clarity."
And with you quoting " since I'm sure I wasn't the first person they had tried this on"
Please support with evidence. Thank you.