LV170+ Bowmaster in RG... D.O.T. bugged or just unlucky?

Hello everyone, it's Eva here.
I'd like to discuss about BM in Rose Garden after update 95.0.

First of all, here's what my lv195 BM does RG as a routine:
Stage 1, using Inferno to deal damage over time on those roses to get seeds, and normally it takes me 2~4mins, and enter 2nd stage with timer 36:00~38:00 left.

Stage 2, still using Inferno to deal damage over time on those Rousseaus to get keys, and normally it takes me 2~4mins, and enter boss stage with timer 36:00~33:00 left
(I seldom enter boss map when timer is lesser then 32:00)

Stage 3, I use hamstring with Inferno to clear the mobs on middle left platform, and i just stand on the 2nd tile from the right side of the middle left platform, hurricane the golem boss there,
normally it take me 1 concentrate and 2 stoppers to clear, so it's like 6~7min, talking to NPC with timer 26~27min left or so

and for bonus stage, as all of BMs know, we Inferno all the way, getting 20 bees is kinda chill with concentrate and stoppers for me "BEFORE".



HOWEVER, AFTER UPDATE 95.0.
my guildie @sherrry told me about doing so bad on BM in RG, and i did RG on BM on sunday and monday badly too,
so this morning i did RG on my BM slowly to check which parts went wrong

It turns out that "the Roses on 1st stage and Rousseaus on 2nd stage if they were killed on the last shot by "Inferno" (damage over time) WILL NOT DROP ANYTHING including meso bag, roses' and rousseaus' etc, monster cards, and the most important SEEDS AND KEYS (UPDATED: EVEN NO EXP)

That's why me and sherrry felt we did so bad on our BMs...


P.S. the bee spawn somehow is still the same as before, just the stage 1 and stage 2 taking us so loooooooong that we have lesser time on bonus map



Just want to ask for more pro BMs and the admin if RG thing is like what i mentioned in this thread, or it is just me and Sherrry so unlucky AF :3

Please feel free to leave ur comments and opinions

 

Same, Inferno user too.

 

updated:
https://royals.ms/forum/threads/bm-inferno-get-no-exp-and-drops-bees-from-rg.244524/#post-1523339

Let's just wait for update to fix it,
and it seems that Inferno will keep mobs at 1 hp just like NL in RG

R.I.P. BM and NL, Tier #4#5 classes

 

May I ask, @IsSnorlax do you use apple in RG?

I believe for BMs, hurricane would clear the map faster than inferno and should be able to get 20 bees with 10-12minutes left assuming average rng of 5% bee invisible etc drop rate.

sorry if this is not related to your post or if you prefer using inferno in your playstyle

 

Just my personal opinion as a BM ya. Other than frozen roses (which I use inferno 100% of the time and it’s effective), I will also use inferno in 2nd stage due to its ability to deal damage over time. So I will first inferno a bunch of mobs, then I hurricane. The pros are (1) the other mobs will continue to take dmg as u hurricane one by one, and (2) the bottom mobs get lured to me. I will pop a few stoppers in stage 1 & 2 so my critical dmg can hit 40k+ in stage 2 mobs. So the damage over time from inferno is quite a huge amount as you hurricane 1 by 1.

With the above, I can usually enter the boss stage at 33-35 min. That’s before the recent update

 

Understood. What about the rg bonus? Specifically map 1 since BMs would do better at the frozen roses map. (Lower hp mob)

Would you be willing to try appling? Hurricane scales better than inferno when appled. If you have 13-14k range appled and echoed you should be able to finish 20 bees and have 15-20mins of bonus time left.

I always hurricane at RG and I find it faster than using inferno i.e. finish 20 bees.

 

Wow just hurricane? I do use 1 appo at golem boss to speed up, and usually will have remaining appo time left for rg bonus (map 1). I gizer after appo is finished, and will get 20bees nearing end time.

U use appo and hurricane only at rg bonus?

 

i use concentrate and hurricane throughout the entire rg including bonus but i played a long time so my statistics should not be used for general feedback

 

Hi Saledor, i did use appo in RG when the bees still were sold for 5m in NPC
but after June 1st last year, the RG patch made it became exchange into totem, and i became to use concentrate and stoppers only

I know some BM would say that with apples they inferno 1 time which is enough for them to clear half of the map

RGs to me is like a way to make mesos, so apples full run in RG may not be that cost-efficient to me

tks for replying and thanks sherrry's POV

 

Fair enough I understand. I also enjoy 100% profitable content.

IIRC what I did in the past was to also apple at the golem boss and rg bonus with concentrate/any free event wa buff/potion like nitrojuice.
The only way to counter this rng lock would be to increase dps which again, I understand the pain because bowmasters can increase 5wa-10wa and not feel like there is any difference in dps


Just get a good ifia ring and get out of RG, do other content which gives a higher rate of return.

 

This just sounds like a bug (esp. exp part)