Official GMS "Classic Server"... thoughts?

So GMS released that they're planning an official "Classic Server"? Sounds like it may function similar to Old School Runescape/WoW, and they may have a slow release of updates over time.

Thoughts?

Private Servers still have their perks, especially well established ones like Royals:

• Better QoL features (mapowner, free cosmetics, fast travel)
• Established community / many hours sunk
• No p2w (nothing explicit)
• Community driven rules / features (cross-gender items / lax marriage / map owner / etc.)

However, GMS Classic may see many important distinct features:

• Won't get sued to shut down (could still happen though)
• Arrival of more returning players afraid of Private Servers (in my opinion, MS World / Artale messed up by realeasing as an unpolished mess)
• More official updates / events?

Thoughts?

 

There'll be p2w and Nexon will reach to your pocket as soon as they have their chance

 

I'm VERY bullish on it. From what we're told and shown in the video, it'd be running on the current GMS source/engine, which means we won't need a separate game client for it, AND we have a good, modern base to build up from. It'll be a modern GMS server with a lot of features removed, and a few custom ones added back in (Sound familiar? They do that with the v83 source here.). I think it'll be great, so long as everything is mostly kept true to how the game was pre-pirates.

I think the QoL stuff that pservers bring should NOT be present on the official ones. I mean, there's no high rate v55 infinite flash jump here, but our QoL systems are tweaks made in response to how things were on the official servers, which ain't too "kosher". That said, if Nexon NA does implement any, it'd likely be due to player feedback, which, if that happens, means they're listening to the players more.

Also, the fact it's GMS, where things like KSing is fine, is good. You know what's nostalgic? A lot of things that ain't allowed on these pservers. I genuinely hope we see smega flaming, ks wars, the people getting their zhelms looted out of turn, et cetera.

The worrying things on my mind are:
-If it is a financial success, will Nexon NA go after Royals and other pservers?
-Regardless of the last bullet, will it stay afloat? How would Nexon NA handle it if it did not meet performance targets?
-What system will require fiat/NX? Just Gachapon? Will it ACTUALLY be p2w?
-Will we follow the story line where the Bing Bang happened? If not, is the classic world basically just an official oldschool pserver?

Overall, a damn good idea by Nexon NA, 15-odd years later! Won't know much until the next announcement, but, it seems like we're SO back, /v/ros.

 

I won't be going anywhere near it. Nexon will mismanage the entire endeavour as they do with everything. Likely a p2w clown fiesta from day one; let's not waste any time getting straight to milking those enormous revenue whale titties. Hand over your money kids. Honestly, what is the point in playing a game where the deepest wallet means the best gear? Devoid of any real meaningful sense of progress or achievement. If that is what you're into fill your boots I guess. I'll be staying right here.

 

I understand your point of view, for me on the p2w issue I'm moving away from artale and coming back here, maybe here the process is slow because there are few staff, but the rules are enforced, I've even met people who do illegal things on other servers and who are aware of vote abuse and account sharing, even harassment and sexualization and yet they say they won't do anything to me, they won't catch me, they don't know how I work or do things, etc. and then I see them in the ban apleal section and I'm on discord telling them I told them so,
If I told you not to do it, why, why, why??.But on that upcoming server I don't see it as playable knowing that NEXON is looking for ways to take advantage, although as a company and owners it's good from their perspective

 

Interesting to bring up the rules enforcements... On private servers, I've seen these rules be enforced much moreso. With actual management and investigation into these issues that arise.
I have never ever seen or heard of bans for misbehavior on any official servers. Maybe chat restrictions at most, but never bans. That is something that private servers seem to deal out much more strictly.

 

That's exactly what makes this server attractive! oh yeah

 

Even tho I don't currently play neither gms or royals, I really care about the both and have enjoyed them more or less past years.
That being said I see ur point and where ur coming from, I must say tho that this pretty old way of thinking that nexon only mismanages everything. Before it certainly was more like so, but I honestly believe they've taken huge steps forward to listening the playerbase more and been making consistently good updates past few years in proving the gameplay and qol.

They did try the boundaries a couple times by trying to implement some very questionable things, but they either didn't go past in GMS or didn't stay in the game due the playerbase not accepting and protesting over it, so they actually had to revert it. This already proves something at the very least... Overall the game is doing a lot better than it has in many years, thanks to all the consistent improvements.

What am saying is that I personally don't want to completely doom the idea of this classic server, Nexon has redeemed themselves a bit past years so I have to give it to them. You already probably knew this but the majority of the players nowadays play in the reboot server where there is no true p2w stuff anymore and having the deepest wallet doesn't mean best gear anymore, more like who farms the most! (sounds familiar) Deep wallet does allow you for quite a bit of pay4qol tho, which is quite understandable, but you will manage easily even with out that stuff if you refuse to wipe which is also very understandable. It's completely different game nowadays tho, so Nexon giving a go on running a classic server of their own is quite interesting to see at this time and point, they even brought back an old dev who used to worked during the classic era, must be super nostalgic for her too. I really hope Royals will keep thriving, but I also hope the "classic server" finds its own success and brings back even more suckers for nostalgia like ourselves. Even during today if you meet a new person in the current gms, it's very likely you two will end up having a conversation about "the good old days" of maple at some point of your gameplay For some of these people, private serves have been a grey area for years and it's unlikely for them to have ever played one. So for them all this old school maple stuff, that is so common for us, are their last memories about this game from over 15 years ago, which is why I can see this "official" classic server being a big thing for someone.

 

staff of a server advocates for said server.

A classic server has more players so all pq's are populated, remember ludipq being full.
More items in the economy so easier to buy something you want/need, in royals it's impossible to buy a sachiel sword or some perf weapons.
Full dev team so more and new events that aren't recycled every year.
Also new content quickly and less bugs/glitches due to having the full sourcecode instead of the hackjob royals has to do, royals can't add features/content due to client limitations.
More players = more community
Proper high resolution client, no more stupid black bars.

if the classic server is a succes then Royals and ML have no reason to exist anymore.

 

Gemmy take: HP washing should be available in Classic
We've already proven it wasn't necessary back in the day on GMS, ergo it's not a p2w "feature". Let hardcore shweaty bois pay teh monz0rz 2 nexown for uber HPizzles.
Coal take: AP resets should be sold for mesos, making them available for everyone. It'd also act as a meso sink, if needed. But, it is Nexon, so it's up to them.

Regardless on whether Nexon adds Pirates or not I hope it stays within the confines of an alt-timeline server where it's just the base classes, but with new stuff added every so often.
I do hope the i-frame time after taking damage is like old maple, as the newer one makes it harder to do Kaede Castle JQ. I wonder if there'll be an event to reach a certain level on Classic to get free stuff for your main on the normal server... (I wouldn't care much, but I know it would to others, and even entice others to come play)

 

Could you please give me the number of your copium dealer? It sounds like you are getting some good shit.

 

He primed the trvthnvke but the last 2 sentences are subjective and a skill issue
Blackedbars is down to drivers/hardware/system settings and you just KNOW the community is gonna be divided more than a pizza at elementary school pizza party
I must agree with everything else, despite my love for Royals
All in all, we're a pserver; the Skyblivion to Nexon's UE5 Remake of oldmaple, if I may. Nexon will have the upper hand, but we will have the SOVL.
Royals will ALWAYS be a gem, but, Nexon is allowed to go all out... just this once...

EDIT (I don't wanna make a new post): the preview of Classic showed only 4 classes, which lands it in a version somewhere between old Royals and *ightSoul, meaning no Pirates, but there is jumpdown.
Thinking now, as long as they stick to this model, we (not just Royals) will have that advantage of Pirates

 

1024x768 is 4:3 aspect ratio, hence the black bars on a 16:9 monitor. In the official nexon video you see that the client is in 16:9 and in high resolution.
Stop spreiding fake information.

 

I know 4:3 stretched is used by some people in counterstrike, but, I'm sorry, I realize I actually don't have much experience with those ratios! :O

Spoiler: teh proofs :D :DDDDD

Does make me wonder, surely they're gonna have the current higher resolutions for the newgens, right? 800x600 may jumpscare em on their 144hz curved monitors...

 

Realistically, I think it'll probably be fun for at least a month or so then everyone will remember why we all hate Nexon.
I didn't look too much into it but I assume they're sticking with the original 1x rates which are excruciating and they're definitely going to filter a ton of people very quickly. The vast majority of players will probably never even reach 2nd job if that's the case. They'll scratch their nostalgia itch by smacking some slimes for a day or two and then leave.
I still think there's a lot of potential though, but I can't say I trust Nexon to not ruin it somehow. But it sounds interesting so I'll probably check it out at least for a little bit.

 

Classic Maple will be a fresh leveling experience where everyone starts from square one and I'm all for it. I most look forward to starting a fresh journey with old and new players and hold out the faintest hope I might rediscover old Maple buddies I lost contact with. I know its a darn near improbabilty but I miss those old friends and hope this new adventure might give me a chance to run into some of them again.

 

I like this server because we're small, but there's more control and competition among players, and that's noticeable. Even more so because it's been running for over 10 years, and it's been a long and rewarding journey. There's still a lot to come, but time will tell, since Nexon only thinks about its own financial comfort, not its players.

I remember very well, how in the past there were groups on twitter and facebook posting about nostalgic game servers, including WOW and Gunbound, but I focused on Maple since at that time I was already starting to get harassed by GMS because almost always I found a hacker taking advantage of the game or a crazy rich kid grinding on the map where I was first and what he said to me when I complained, my wallet is worth more than your word, so many actions like that I left and moved here, at first I did not understand the rules and I affirm that the first two months I was aggressive with other players, but thanks to knowing more people I was able to know that there was a forum, and that things are discussed there, it was like a community in disguise for me

 

My thoughts are similar, though I personally would weigh the community aspect a bit more in terms of how it contributes to the success of the release. And I'll add:

The time with the initial wave of players that come back will be such a unique and nostalgic experience. But I agree that it will be short lived. Like most I'd bet 90% of the playerbase falls off sharply after the first month or so. As for what follows, my general opinion revolves around the following:
[-] vanilla osms is NOT balanced, esp late game
[-] Nxn does NOT care about its players
[+] official server
[+] large playerbase

Therefore, I do think classic will be an enjoyable, worthwhile, and long lasting option for a lot of mushroom gamers. The promise of server stability as an official service is a huge community builder and retainer, and something a large number of players have been waiting for for a long time. However, with the information we have to go off of so far, I think the experience will be almost purely socially driven with little to no competitive or balanced gameplay aspects. Without some serious player feedback implementation, re-works of basic skill and class mechanics, and a policed/limited p2w economy, much like we see here, as time goes on I expect to see the need for a properly managed game to increase, and subsequently, ps activity.

tldr/conclusion; I think the true glory of osms maple is shown in a community that's comprised of a mix of competition (in class-diversity/bossing/fun economy/etc), creative freedom (in using game&char assets to express yourself without unreasonable 90day bs/$$$$$), and social interaction (high player count/events/pqs). IMO royals gets pretty close, but ultimately falls short socially, as would any non-official server. classic will bring the social, but will lack pretty much anything else. I'm curious to see how the numbers shake out.

 

I'm curious how differently the playerbases of [pserver community] / [current retail players] / [returning nostalgia players] would react if the monetization level was almost exactly as it was vanilla. Things like exp/drop coupons, pets, gacha, temporary outfits, TP rocks, etc etc.

The optimist in me hopes they really make a good server, the realist in me is duct taped to a chair in the corner of my mind (the optimist is pretty psycho)