Awaiting Feedback update 95.1 ruined bossing (and mobbing)

This update makes the game less fun

 

Entire Horntail preheads without sed at all (this is just prehead 2, it happened in 1 as well before the recording):


When will the game go back to normal?

 

I need to upload vid later but pap is also broken not doing debuffs at allll maybe 1 dispell per 1 run

 

Thank you, but how do these relate to the topic of the thread?
The aggro issue is not addressed.
Will any of the listed fixes change bosses basically casting skills whenever they feel like it rather than off cooldown?

 

Seems very useful, because in order to rush ppl had to clear the area of all other chars to make sure the rusher would not get rubberbanding mobs.
However, now that the mobs will be rushed properly, what happens when multiple ppl push/pull at the same time?
For example, it's a common occurrence in vl (buccs snatch, warriors rush/magnet).
Is this not going to cause bugs and potentially mobs getting thrown around the map?
Would be good if you could give it a test before releasing this.

Edit:
Good scenarios to test would be:
- 2 buccs snatching mobs from opposite directions
- bucc snatch + warrior rush at the same time

 

This looks pretty good honestly.
Since you are dealing with mob pushing, I did notice that snatch overshoot bug still exists in your clips (clip1 timestamp: 0:30, clip2 timestamp: 0:08). That is quite concerning because it often causes golems to get thrown across the map, resulting in VL eating a few golems.
As you can see, mini golems tend to shoot backward when their initial positions are slightly behind the bucc that's casting snatch.
I don't believe it's related to aggro swapping since it can happen in solo content like Rose Garden too, but you should look into that because it seems like the change allows golems to get snatched/rushed into that position more often.

 

I don't think you can survive VL with 15k HP brother, you might need to wash more.

In all seriousness tho - it looks better, and now I'm excited for my VL run tomorrow, as I hope it will be smoother.

As Pina mentioned, it seems like the golems still has that bug, and I agree with Pina.

Would be pointless to repeat what Pina said so I won't elaborate.

Thank you for your continued work matt, and I will update after the run to share my experience as well.

 

It's only for next update, not in the game yet

 

Then I'm blind asf

I'll be waiting for when it's actually in-game then lul

 

Wanted to add something that started since last patch -

Papu has always been cheeky in ignoring the 90% stance rate for warriors, he would still KB every 6-7 hits or so.
After the last patch it seems like he KB much much more, I have maxed stance, always active, and I get KB every 2nd or 3rd hit (not always just an average).

I asked and at least 2 other players said they see the same behavior since last patch.

 

One place that feels funky is CWKPQ bottom bosses, primarily just after spawning them. After the bosses spawn, you ofcourse wanna move them into a corner, and here it seems that the first 4-5 rushes i use, does nothing or just rubberbands the bosses. I'm not sure how the aggro works and if it's relevant: but maybe it can be hard to test, since in CWKPQ there is usually 2-3 people top bosses and 2-3 characters at the bottom when the bosses spawn.

Also, it was mentioned that maybe you could exclude certain mobs from these changes, or make them behave in different ways. I for one think it would be a good idea to maybe exclude LHC mobs? As a warrior/melee imo there is no issue, but as mentioned before, ranged LHC runs are simply dead because of the update.

 

Even though it solves a really annoying bug, snatch just doesn't hit mobs in situations where it feels like it definitely should.
So it just replaces an existing problem with a new one, and I believe mob clear will become a bit harder as a result.
It would be ideal if there was another, less easy way to solve it that wouldn't create another problem.

 

Even though boss issues are more pressing I would also appreciate at least a response regarding content like ranged LHC which basically died since the update.

 

I feel like changing Snatch's hit box can raise issues where bucc can no longer reach certain areas with ds+snatch combo. Take lhc golems for example, buccs like to stand on the middle stairs to hit multiple platforms with ds/snatch. Making the Snatch's hitbox shorter can potentially cause them no longer be able to reach the top platform. That is something most buccs players wouldn't want to see.

Spoiler: example

As far as I can tell, only mini golems in VL and RG can be overshoot, It might be better to modify mini golem's attributes rather than snatch's. Is their movement speed the only attribute that's causing them to overshoot, or are there other attributes you can modify so they don't get overshoot?

If modifying snatch is still the preferred way, maybe consider one of the following options:
1. Make the back part of the snatch have a higher hitbox than mini golem's height.

Spoiler: example

2. Make the back part of the snatch only does damage, no pulling.

Spoiler: example