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    No one cares, your scam ass is still banned, cry about it :rolleyes:
     
    NehZu, May 27, 2025
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    Yeah. I can't believe they are blaming you for this. You are totally innocent in my eyes. #Justice for FakeMage.
     
    MitchyD, May 27, 2025
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    You can never wake a man who pretends to sleep
     
    Nei, May 27, 2025
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    Seyu, May 27, 2025
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    Anyway, very sorry for all victims of FakeMage :'(.
    No reason to put him on the list since he was just banned for major vote abuse. He won't be scamming people anymore. Not on those accounts anyway.

    Of course you "don't remember doing that", FakeMage. Not remembering is the go-to excuse for most scammers here.
     
    Shiratsuyu, May 27, 2025
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    add him on there then cross his name out - its not enough for our victims :cri:
     
    hvrrxson, May 27, 2025
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    This guy may be responsible for the scamming of atleast a half dozen players that we know of. Very likely more.

    To @Fakemage. You were a weak player and an even weaker person. Good riddens you rat
     
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    Enticing, May 28, 2025
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    We don't have to prove anything to you! Prove.
    We won't change. Not unless we are of one people. One. One. One. One race. One. One. One. The Unity will allow us to move beyond these petty concerns and deal with the major problems at hand. You want to be a part of that, don't you? Part. Don't.
     
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    Reialtas, May 28, 2025
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    It turns out this could have been punished more harshly with a ban or at least a multi-month suspension, you were right.

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    Also, one is inflation of in-game currency, mesos, which ruins the game for others. This I would consider is doubly worse, because the in-game currency scam deprives someone else of their mesos.
     
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    Is there any prof you didn't vote abuse? Cuz i dont see any prof of it

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    iyarin, May 28, 2025
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    FakeMage has just been caught ban evading again, but unfortunately this was not until he had scammed another victim.

    Although we are doing our best to try and weed out dangerous players before they have victims, there is only so much we can do. We need the community to help us by ideally not doing these drop trades anymore. But, if you really must do a drop trade (seriously, don't though), then do your own due diligence process first (a bit like the one you use for trades worth over 5 billion), where you are finding out about the person before you make the trade. For example, what are their mains? Can they log into these mains? Does it make sense for them to have this many APRs? Do they have a reputation they need to protect/ characters they won't want to lose? Also, please do full screen video of the trade (check out this guide if you don't know how). Although we cannot refund your lost items, we can ensure the scammer is punished. You can then also post them here on the community blacklist to warn the community.

    Please pass this message onto your guildies and friends, we need everybody to be aware that players like this are around.

    It is my understanding that because of the way the cash shop inventory is coded, we have not yet been able to increase the number of APRs per trade.
     
    Heidi, Jun 3, 2025
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    Is IP ban not effective/possible?
     
    Reialtas, Jun 3, 2025
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    We IP ban of course, but unfortunately most homes internet connections now days get dynamic IP addresses rather than static IP addresses. This means that the ISP will periodically allocate them a new IP address. Most people can also get a new IP address allocated simply by rebooting their router (a technique we often recommend to innocent people who were randomly allocated an IP address that somebody else had previously been banned on).

    We have our methods of catching out ban evaders, including FakeMage, but it's a frustrating and ongoing cat and mouse game, hence my warning that we really need the community to be a lot more vigilant.
     
    Heidi, Jun 3, 2025
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    I think that one feedback about making APRs be available in stacks of 10/100 might make more and more sense.

    I know telling people to not drop trade is something we all 'consciously know' we should do, but when it comes to the 1 minute per 9 you might need 20 times for the 180 APRs you might be buying. That's a solid 15-20 minutes of time "wasted" doing a tedious task.

    Yes good intentions are always nice, but I think looking into why people want to drop trade in the first is a good thought as well.
     
    Apoc_Ellipsis, Jun 3, 2025
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    We know it's a pain.

    Apparently it's not easy to fix though, as client side, the cash shop inventory is coded differently to the other inventories.

    It is all very frustrating.
     
    Heidi, Jun 3, 2025
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    Thank you Heidi for letting us know. You don’t have to so I appreciate you for letting us know :classy:
     
    TonyNL, Jun 3, 2025
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    By no means was that a blame at staff, they know a lot more than I possibly could about the inner workings of the game and it's code and I know things aren't a simple lift.

    My point was more instead of blaming people, blame the problem and try to solve the problem. It's not an easy one to solve of course as you shared :(

    But falling for a scam doesn't make someone a bad person, and yes you could do things better, and it doesn't give permission to scam because you can get away with it.


    That said, maybe a new item like a B coin, that let's people trade it to an NPC that can be traded back for APRs? No clue how easy that might be....
     
    Apoc_Ellipsis, Jun 3, 2025
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    Couldnt we add in a middle man currency similar to how we did with B coins to combat the need to drop aprs? Like say Person A wants to sell aprs. They buy 100 from the cash shop and take those to an npc and exchange the apr for a 100 coins/rocks/gems w/e currency that can only be bought with aprs. They can only be traded to another player or exchanged back to the npc and cannot be dropped or sold in a shop. Player b buys the 100 coins/rocks/gems with meso or B coins from Player A. Player A got their money they go off to live happily ever after not getting scammed. Player B goes to the same npc and exchanges those 100 coins/rocks/gems for aprs. Player B gets 100 aprs. No drop trading, no risk of scam.

    Unless you want aprs to be hard to transfer because they're super common rwt'd items and you wanna be able to keep track of them easier. I may be overly simplifying a more complicated issue than I think it is. But i cant help but feel like there's gotta be something simple to solve the issue here
     
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    Enticing, Jun 3, 2025
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    To be clear, we want to solve this problem too. It's so incredibly frustrating having to tell people to be careful, as it feels like victim blaming. But short of making APRs untradeable, it really feels like there's nothing we can do other than beg people to be careful.

    That said, we will try and think about bit to see if we can come up with a creative workaround that would make APR trading via trade window more efficient. No promises, but its something I'll be pushing for it its at all possible.

    In the mean time, I'd at the very least avoid drop trading with anybody who cannot show a high level character. Today he was on a level 19 character that he created 2 days ago, and he had no other characters. I give this advice because I don't want to see anymore victims, and im just completely at a loss on how else to stop this horrible person. We will do everything we can to detect and thwart his ban evasion attempts before he can even get off maple island, but we can't check 24/7, and he could still manage to slip past us. It. Is. FRUSTRATING!!!!
     
    Heidi, Jun 3, 2025
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