What is the probability of getting 4 consecutive bad pirate hat?

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    I postponed the gameplay of death stranding 2 which I expected so much just to get a good pirate hat. I did 150 runs in pirate pq in 3 days and got 3 bad pirate hats (got one bad before this). The first one is 13 13 14 14, the second one is 14 14 14 13, the third one is 13 14 13 14(finally a good one for thief but special scrolls 3/7), the fourth one 13 14 13 12.

    I don't know if there is a balance for luck so I go to try gacha. Used up all my NX and got a stack of trashes.
     
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    It's rng my brother, I personally got over 50 bad Ifia rings in a row, when some ppl got a godly ring their first try, some people had it worse.

    It's all about rng.
     
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    You can sell your bad rings but I just wasted time in pq runs one after another.
     
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    wdym sell my bad rings bruh they're untradable
    You do realize I waste 35-40 mins per rose garden run, when I'm not even guaranteed to get a ring, right? xD
     
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    That ring was a fixed status in official reboot server. Making it fluctuate just wasting time. A bad decision.
    By the way, at least you can get a result in 40mins, two runs less than 1 hour and a half. I need to spend 6-7 hours to get one hat.
     
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    I can do it only once a day
    I've wasted over 40 hours and I still didn't get a decent ring.
    I sometimes not even getting a result.
    There is no secret or probability, it's all rng.
    Sorry that you still didn't get desired hat, I wish you luck!!
     
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    I don't understand your "decent". My "decent" means "average", not a grey one. I just want a average one and all my 4 hats are all below average (grey). I don't believe you've tried so many times but still didn't get a average one.
     
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    Highest stat for an ifia ring is 8.
    Decent for me means 5+
    Highest stat ring I ever got is 3, and that's for the wrong stat.
    I do daily rose garden since July 2024, means I spend 40 minutes per day on rose garden, approximately 13,200 minutes (220 hours) since July 2024 (more than that but I calculated July 2024 to June 2025)
    I've been suffering brother, don't worry xD
     
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    Any formula to calculate the possibility? Have you tried to calculate how many times you need to try when chances reach to 90%?
     
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    As I remember, the average stats of that ring is all stats+2. I will stop if I get an average one.
     
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    Stats go from 0 to 7.
    Average stat would be 4, as it's in the middle.
    I never got an average stat ring in my life.
    I've received multiple 0-2 stats rings tho.
    You might settle for below average (which is 2) but I won't.
    Also, you don't get all stats, you get 0 to 4 stats (as in, you can get a ring with no STR/DEX/INT/LUK and u can get a ring with one of these stats, all of the stats, or some of the stats).

    This is not GMS or w/e server you played, so it's different.

    There isn't a formula to get a good ring, it's RNG. Some people got it after 1 run, some people got it after 1,000 runs.
     
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    I mean it's definitely the higher stats the lower possibility. The frequency of occurrence of +8 should be lower than the +2. It couldn't be evenly distributed, at least as I know, the Korean MMORPGs prefer the rare random stats so much and they won't let you get satisfied stats so easily. Better give up +8.
     
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    I'm doing rose garden for the totems and nx, not cause I hunt the ifia ring.
    An ifia ring would be awesome, but it's my not main goal.
    I don't hunt for 7 stat ring either, so that doesn't bother me.
    I think we lost track from your thread, but do you see now how there isn't any number of runs or time to spend that'll get you the desired item?
    It's all about RNG and well, up to the gods of luck to decide if they'll bless you today or not.
     
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    I searched for Ifia ring in database. The average stats of Ifia ring is all stats+1, not+4. It's+1(0 - 2 or 7). The means the average is 1, the nice one is 2. The extreme one is 7 (possibility near 0).
     
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    0 to 7 = 8 numbers.
    Average is number 4, as it's in the middle
    Well, If you wanna be more technical..

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    I said it's not evenly distributed.
     
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    Well
    This is getting pointless and tiring
    If you refuse to listen there is only so much I can do
    Good luck o/
     
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    Pirate hat is stats +14 ( 12 - 16 or 21). That means, of possibility, an average one is 14, a good one is 16, an extreme one is 21.

    Ifia ring is stats+1 (0 - 2 or 7). That means an average one is 1, a good one is 2, an extreme one is 7.

    I want a +14 hat, which is common. You want a +4 ring, which is very rare.
     
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    Honestly, just scroll the hats anyways as that usually has a much bigger difference in how they turn out than starting stats.

    Also, as a side note ppq hat can't go godly, so 16 is max.

    You could also go for Zak or targa helm if pirate hat is giving you too much trouble.
     
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    I've not gotten a new lvl 90 hat since they made the stats vary but all the intermediate hats I've claimed since were all grey. They really shouldn't have made it vary since this is one of the dullest pqs ~f3.

    It's really only good for beginner mage ("easy" 30+ int while they have to buy service for other helms) and niche builds like pyrope weapon warriors (scroll for str) or BPQ mule hermit, but it would still be nice to not worry about getting a dud after FIFTY pqs.
     
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