Why are BFC's worth more than FS?

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    You didn’t answer either of 2 my questions
     
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    Why this post seem like huge ragebait
     
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    What part of it seems like rage bait?
     
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    If there is anything you can prove by asking me, you can prove by proving your assumption being valid, and by reasoning from your assumption to your conclusion. It wouldnt be necessary to ask me to join your proof.
     
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    I’m genuinely confused. I asked you 2 questions to get your perspective which you didn’t answer. Never have i said or insinuated that you are wrong, maybe you’re the one that’s right. I don’t understand why you would think I’m being hostile
     
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    @Zenoooo i laid out a conclusion which you disagreed with for the reasoning that red socks are too low in supply both before and after VL. It’s fine that you strongly disagree and I think your point is a reasonable point. At the same time since I disagree with your opinion I’m trying to understand how you came to your conclusion which is why I asked the 2 questions that I did, in which you didn’t answer and thus here I am asking you to answer them.

    Rather than proving myself right I’m trying to understand how you came to your conclusion in more detail that red socks don’t affect the prices of shoes.

    If you answer the 2 questions I asked I should have a very clear picture of how you came to your conclusion
     
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    I would be happy if you prove anything I think being wrong (for example, rs supply being significant compared to fs/vl, and rs price do affect finished shoes a lot.)

    What I am not interested in here, is following the reasoning under a false assumption, or joining any thinking related to that cuz I don't see any new information.

    In #53, I said the 2 att relationship is due to the probability of getting certain att capes/shoes, on which some of your reasoning enlightened me, and I proved myself wrong by looking at past CGS price history. So I happily admitted to be wrong in #60.

    bro again you are showing what i said here. That's totally unnecessary.
    If you wanna discuss, you gotta discuss instead of using emotional phrases and harsh tones. I suggested you not to do so to other people cuz I thought it's wrong, and I suggest you not to do that to me cuz I will totally block any point from someone if they does so.
     
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    Hey man, from the bottom of my heart I have no idea why you think I have a harsh tone towards you. I admit I had a harsh tone against @lucybee due to her having misunderstood my viewpoints, I have not denied this. But I don’t believe I have a single time insulted you or said or even implied that you were wrong. If I have please tell me where and I will apologize .

    My man I think you are really smart which is why I’m trying to understand your viewpoint. I’m sure a lot of people told you that you were lucky to scroll that 22/3 VL boot, but I simply saw that as something inevitable for someone who clearly understands how to be profitable in the long run through chaos scrolls.
    If anyone here is going to open my eyes to my reasoning being false it’s you. You obviously have 500%+ of mapleroyals economy experience over me which is why I’m asking questions to understand your conclusions as I may not have the proper experience to understand them.

    Just want to clear the air here and hope you understand that I’m being genuine with my questions and I only have respect for you man. I definitely believe that you may be right over me. Maybe we will still disagree but that’s fine.

    Maybe you misunderstood or misread my 2 questions or maybe I just suck at writing. Let me give you my perspective on those 2 questions later and you can tell me what you think of them
     
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    ok this is going too far. I don't wanna discuss what I did outside of this thread.

    If different people are tell you something you might not have noticed, it's probably true.
    What I was saying are these:
    What's the difference if you say "seems like you believe", "it's fine that you disagree".

    Some questions, if I can answer, I would answer, usually with data (for example, fs/vl/sock 20+ probability). Others I didn't answer directly, but what I said could be a hint for you to find the answer yourself (cuz I probably can not answer even thinking for 20 min). <<< I was hoping you could reflect the two questions with this: '1. At high ATT, is cape = shoes+2 att? Yes, and according to the old price guides, this has been the case since a long time ago.' It's unnecessary to keep asking me.. I am not an economist and I said idk to the OP question '4. Why is cape of x ATT more expensive than shoes of x-3 att (at high ATT)? ' (rephrased a bit).

    Sry I gotta stop here.
     
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    Sorry, you announced it ingame over smega, so thought it was just public knowledge. My apologies.

    You had said my RS argument is “weak” and "the premise is wrong". You didn't say "I think" or "I believe", instead you made very definitive statements which communicated to me that you are very strongly convinced that I am wrong in which I went on to tell you that I find no issue or offense with that. You clearly knew and were convinced of something that I didn’t understand, I acknowledged that fact and proceeded to ask you questions because I wanted to know more. I would like to apologize, but I can't see how it's justified to believe I had a harsh tone based on that. I'm really not trying to be argumentative here, its just my genuine perspective and if you disagree I'll respect your viewpoint on it and we can leave it at that.

    Anyways, hey I appreciate you spending all the time you did giving me your perspective up to the point as well as providing some good precise numbers as well. It's definitely time consuming to discuss such a difficult topic on a thread. Im going to post my perspective on the 2 questions I asked you, not towards you but just the thread in general. I understand you are tired of the discussion and won't pull you in any further so feel free to take a look if you have time or ignore it completely
     

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