Closed Banned because of what exactly, really?

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    ALL Your Character Names: Ebenzer, GodForgiveMe, HumbleKing, SinsForgiven (1 name each for 4 total accounts)
    Last thing you did: In game? Before I tried to relog to find out of this blockade, as most pros normally do is fight Wuling Yaoseng solo via multi-clienting if I'm not mistaken, just trying to do the bit of dailies and hit another 200 in MapleRoyals
    Why do you think you got banned?: I believe the ban was because quite a few of the community over here was bitter that my previous bans were too short, so the Game Masters decided to increase its duration further to fit my past crimes or something?
    Ban message when attempting to log in: Your account has been blocked for harassment.
    What GM banned you (optional): Probably the forum moderator because he seems to have a problem with me, or a combination of other GMs too?

    Alright folks, on the other hand since I had rethink about whether to make for another appeal after the first and second incidents, I'll just do it for the sake of "humoring" those who wants to witness another one? So yes, other than the third point of why I think I got banned, I'll provide my other conjecture that could possibly be the proper reason for people in power to initiate with issuing another of my 'much-favored' ban by the minority masses of MapleRoyals.

    So my guess that resulted in yet another in-game ban was because I had a conversation about someone item megaphoning his 125/2 Gold Dragon Knife that he had just made in which I asked for the current offer since I thought I might be interested to make it 129 with my anniversary 100% scrolls that I had gotten during Royals' 12th year anniversary event. So, this same person also told me that he happened to just make a 104/1 King Cent whilst I was typing for more details if I could make a bargain purchase of the dagger. It's a vague recall for me and I cannot even remember his name. I was just happening to be doing some ticket tries at Mushroom Shrine then actually. I did say he was lucky to have made that knuckle on the spot as I was typing in whisper and I said he had probably drained the luck from me as I didn't get the much-coveted chaos scrolls during my run, but he succeeded in scrolling another decent end-game knuckle. The conversation I'd say was mostly informal for the most part. He was probably secretively screenshotting those messages and sent it forth to report it afterwards? I don't exactly remember what the words were that I used, but I'm quite certain it's not anything explicit by nature at all and should not qualify for another ban for harassment, at least in my opinion really.

    If that's not the right guess, then please enlighten me of what exactly is my crime this time? I know it's more or less highly confidential or classified data that the GMs have to their advantage as evidence to ensure that bans are only issued correctly. If you're willing to provide some hints instead so that I might be able to realize my wrongs again, that'll be fine if I can figure out what I've done this time to receive yet another ban?

    Please do not desperately find every bit of opportunity to easily trigger anymore future bans after this one though if you don't mind and thank you for viewing my appeal, people. Have a nice day...
     
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    Your third and fourth strikes were due to incidents around the same time, although one was processed much later than the other.

    Strike #3: In cake, you were spamming stuff like "PLEASE ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST NOW AND BE SAVED FROM HELL" in all chat.

    Strike #4: You harassed another player by whispering her and calling her names, telling her she was going to "hell", and continuing even after she told you she was uninterested, and wanted you to stop.

    We do not allow this kind of abusive religious fear mongering on our server. Please re-familiarize yourself with our ToS, and in particular the clauses about hate speech. I recommend also reviewing this.
    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/regarding-hate-speech-and-political-propaganda.224298/

    You will be unbanned in January. Any further objectionable behaviour offences will be met with further 3 month bans.
     
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    To clarify, I am just a Forum Moderator, I can only issue bans on forums, but not for in-game

    Personally, I would strongly recommend you to not harass others in-game with religious matters (Christianity, Jesus etc)
    Depends on how it's worded, it may be treated as hate speech and not just propaganda
     
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    Your accusation toward Dave is unfair. As he has already informed you, he was not the person who banned you.

    You are obviously entitled to your religious beliefs. However, this goes both ways, and we ask that you are respectful toward others who might not share your beliefs. This here is just some of what you said to the player you harassed, even though they repeatedly asked you to stop. Every time you have been banned, I have been astonished at the extent to which you attempt to (1) paint yourself as a victim of unfair treatment (2) try and convince others that the actual victim was the one in the wrong.

    ^ That, and the comment from the cake map is not respectful of other people's freedom of choice. The comments in the cake map even made other Christians very uncomfortable. Our decision to ban you for violating our rules about hate speech is not "Christian persecution" or anything like that.

    Instead of playing the victim like you have done the previous three times you were banned, and now appear to be doing this time as well, you should instead reflect on your actions. If you want to be unbanned from the Shoutbox, you would need to make an appeal about it. However, you would have to convince us that you won't just whinge and play victim there. So far, I don't think any of us would be very convinced.
     
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    Please keep any talk about your ban to this thread. I will respond to your comment here.

    This is a completely bizarre take on what actually happened. Of your two most recent bans, one only involved comments in all chat, and as far as I know everybody mostly just tried to focus on killing the cake and ignoring your extremely uncomfortable preaching/ hate speech/ whatever you would call it when somebody is telling others that if they don't believe in Jesus Christ that they will go to hell.
    As for the second, that player was not baiting you - they just wanted you to leave them alone. Your repeated attempts to paint this player as somehow being in the wrong are not appreciated, and has a weirdly similar feeling to when you were harassing a fellow anego hunter over several weeks a few months earlier. I can't think of anybody else here who is as convinced as you are that they are not in the wrong, and that this is just some kind of persecution for religious views (or whatever it exactly is you think).

    For what it's worth, none of the people who reported you for the last two incidents actually "expected" us to ban you over it. Although we generally get quite a number of reports (unrelated to you) that could be described as "Minor-Minded Maplers" whinging about the pettiest of nonsense, this was not true of any of the reports against you. Rather, you were reported by some of our most grown up and mature community members.

    One of the players who reported you for the comments in cake was clear that they did not "expect" us to ban you, but they mostly wanted a clearer stance on where the line should be drawn in terms of preaching. Their report was one of the most thoughtful I have read, as they beautifully explained why words like yours negatively affected them. We agreed with them that wherever the line should be drawn, you had most certainly crossed it. And, after discussing it as a team, we determined that it already fell well within our existing definition of hate speech.

    The player in the other incident did not think they had screenshotted enough evidence for you to be banned, but wanted us to know about it due to the ongoing nature of the harassment they were getting from you. However, just within those screenshots, the player had told you multiple times to stop, and yet, you just kept going with your disturbing messages. The player was not disturbed because they are "too easily offended" - your comments would have disturbed anybody just wanting to chill and play Maplestory.

    There has been a lot of feedback and discussion from our other players about how they feel about your bans. Many are very disturbed by your objectionable behaviour, and feel that it is crazy that you are not just permanently banned from this server. Sexual and religious abuse and harassment do far more harm than just ruining somebody's day. If you continue to whinge about your bans in this passive aggressive victim-blaming style or act like this is some kind of religious persecution that you must stand up to, then I will be initiating a discussion with my colleagues about permanently banning you from the server (and forum), under the staff discretion rule (which is sometimes used when players have repeated objectionable behaviour offences and there is no reason to hope their behaviour will improve). It is extremely disturbing that you still seem to genuinely believe that you did not really do anything wrong.
     
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    First of all, you didn't truly have to be that elaborate on reminding me of some of my past actions that have occasionally made some individuals felt very uneased having to tolerate and deal with my objectionable behaviors and or words verbalized to them or out in the open even, but thanks for finally being willing to write in a much more professional reply it seems on my appeal here nonetheless GM Heidi.

    I'm definitely evidently aware that many of the forum users and members of Royals are overall very dissatisfied at my presence amongst them and they'd be more than glad if I'm finally gone for their good.

    However, I don't really know what would be the main majority of other maplers of this server would also really feel about their actual interactions with me in game if they unknowingly encountered me somewhere without knowing much about my existing 'bad reputation' that I've already received here on the forums for the most part.

    Not sure if it's really fair to just gauge my attitudes and characters based on a few of the more outspoken and open members here and to use it as a baseline verdict to determine if I'm actually fit for the game when there are still loads more players unknown out there unaware or oblivious to what kind of person I actually am in reality.

    I'm sorry but the apparent 'threat' you made about wanting to discuss with your peers whether I should be exterminated or not is very worrying as it should also be for anyone else if they are on the receiving end of such a hefty warning.

    I first made my character in MapleRoyals back in 2013 and I'm one of the longest lasting members currently perhaps, who'd still be fairly active in game, I guess. I do think that there should be at the very least a bit more respect for timing veterancy if it's fair pointer to make at all?

    I don't think any of the past and present GMs here will truly have the rights to remove me if they so want and wish to without the approval of founding administrator Matt's fully justly reasoned approval by any means to make for such a personally impactful verdict on my end. I'd expect of no unlawful influence from the community and amongst the team either for him to make for his ultimate decision concerning my case.

    The fact that it seems fine for some people to try to insult and offend me instead over in the forum and not only receive no warnings but more support from others as well is quite obviously quite prejudice towards me I'd state that also.
     
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    I based what I said on the reports we have received about your behaviour over the years, and your attitude on this forum with regards to those bans.

    Decisions to permanently ban people for persistent objectionable behaviour are made following a discussion with the whole moderation staff team, which obviously includes Matt.

    If you do not want it to come to that, then just behave yourself and stop trying to minimize and justify your actions, and stop blaming your victims.

    If others are insulting you, then please use the forum report feature.
     

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