It says the answer in the macros section: However, this is an extremely simplified answer. The difference will depend on your range and on your buffs (SE/no SE). Few important things to note: - Demo spam cannot outdamage Barrage + Demo with the gear available on this server, despite the damage loss on cap for the last 2 hits of Barrage. - It's not worth using Barrage + Demo over Demo spam until your Barrage is nearly maxed (again, the exact level of Barrage will depend on your gear and buffs, for the sake of simplifying - don't use Barrage + Demo until Barrage is maxed). Heres a rough damage comparison by range (100% being Barrage + Demo damage): Spoiler: click
Hi everyone! I'm thinking of coming back and making a Buccaneer. It's been a long time since I last played, and I've never tried the new content. Is Bucc good for LHC and Rose Garden content? Also, is there a guide on where to position yourself and how to do it properly? Thanks, everyone!
Bucc is good at every single thing in the game pretty much. At rg it's not great but it is not bad either
a question - I've been doing barrage + dragon strike combo for von leon for a while now as it's very easy to dodge anything dangerous (as demo holds you in place for a second or so after the end of the animation) and I've been told I'm actually losing DPS that way and it's somewhat trolling. I keep demo binded to a closeby key if I have to use it, ofc, but my main attacking macro is barrage dragon strike (dragon strike + snatch for mobs ofc). I also dodge with corkscrew from time to time cause it's an easy long-ish iframe. I'd love your insight on that, cause by your guide you said it's better by 4% for 2 targets, and when I tried using the other macro of barrage demo in von leon I was risking death more times, not to mention I did die like twice because I was stuck in demo.. I do understand that barrage demo is the best for single target, as per your guide, but is it really trolling or makes that big of a difference that i should prefer the riskier combo over that? (Maybe I'm just a noob on bucc which is a fair assumption tbh lol) Also if barrage DS is the better macro / not trolling, does it make a difference if I'm using super transformation(When no mobs are spawned) considering I can use both skills without it?
Barrage + Demo is significantly stronger on single target and should be prioritized. Refer to this if you want to know roughly by how much (look at the DPS on the right and not damage per combo): Spoiler: . I wouldn't say using Barrage + DS is trolling, it's just not the optimal way to play. In order to switch to Barrage + Demo you need to change your approach to dodging skills, the difference is something like this in simple terms: 1) With Barrage + DS you just hold your macro and only pause to dodge stuff with Demo/Corkscrew. 2) With Barrage + Demo you do not hold the macro, but instead start with barrage, and then either go straight into Demo if safe, pause momentarily before going into Demo if needed or just use a DS if unsafe. This playstyle is more reactive and requires you to get a feeling of the delay slots that you have in this boss that could fit a risk free Demo. This delay slot is quite large in B1/B2 which means you should be able to almost entirely Barrage + Demo it, and a bit smaller in B3 due to the risk of getting lasered, but it should still be ok for the majority of it. Corkscrew should be used for dodging almost exclusively for the following situations: 1) While VL casts laser/bird/rocks in the middle of clearing golems, Corkscrew will be the most time efficient way to dodge those as you will be able to resume attacking asap and it will also do a little damage itself. Avoid doing this on Gargs for the risk of separating them. 2) If you finished your combo in B3 when the ankhs are already on the ground and about to drop. It could be risky to Demo because you could get sniped by a laser right after. I tried to simplify this for newer players in this section of the guide: Spoiler: click In general, on Bucc you should really try your best to find the most efficient way to play. Range is not really a good metric to gauge how useful you will be, isn't it nice to know that you could punch above your weight in this boss if you just optimize your gameplay? In my opinion, you should try to watch some gameplay of the Barr + Demo method and try to understand when it's exactly safe to go into Demo. Watch only the portions that are out of smokes (and you should also be outside smoke party if you are going to practice this in my opinion). Spoiler: some videos I hope this explains it clearly enough, but it helps to experiment to get a feeling for this method, so just practice until you are comfortable.
first of all, thank you so much for the detailed reply, i appreciate it! so, based on what you're saying, i shouldn't really have barrage and demo in a singular macro, but maybe just attack while using both keys separately? like, have barrage at 1 key and demo in the 2nd key and just use them one by one? that seems to be the safest way to slowly get used to it but i might be missing something, or maybe have barrage ds macro while demo is close to it so i can use it more often comfortably? also noticed that in the first vid you used barrage ds and occasionally used demo for dodging, that's basically what i do, so i'm kinda confused. i did see that in b2 you started doing more demo's, so i assume it's like b1 use more ds b2 use more demo b3 use a mixture (leaning more towards demo) did i get it right? i got 2 years~ of experience facing VL but the issue is that i have this experience for my dk / shad / bishop, and not as much for my neglected bucc, so i'm still a bit insecure doing the barrage demo macro (sorry if the order of what i said seemed a bit confusing, i wrote as i read / watched the vids). Thanks!
Yes, it's good to have each skill on individual keys for Bucc in general, you will have more control over your character if you get used to playing this way. Personally, I start with my Barr + Demo macro and I use arrow key to cancel the Demo portion if I can't go into Demo, but that's the same thing really. B1 and B2 are the same, you should Barr + Demo almost all the time. It's more likely that for the portion you watched in B1 VL was pausing between attacks a lot or that I caught some bad rhythm. If there is no attack animation for VL yet when Barrage is done, I use a DS to fill that gap and wait to see what's the next attack. You might notice that I usually also follow it with a Demo once I see the animation, so it will be Barrage -> DS -> Demo and not just Barrage -> DS, but that's really situational. I wouldn't exactly say it's the same as using Barr + DS and Demo only for dodging, but you should think about it as using Barrage first, DS to delay while it's unclear if it's safe to Demo, and then Demo. Your approach should be starting with Barrage, and then reacting off what you see next. It's also possible I wasn't really playing optimally at the start, but either way you should follow the behavior you saw in B2 from what you describe.
Yes, i've seen you cast barrage > ds > demo, and never just barrage > ds so it's fine to use it in this order (barrage > ds if animation is unclear > demo if its safe enough) and as the fight continues, slowly switch more into barrage demo? to be fair most of the time you did barrage ds first was in B1, yes, so it makes sense you probably just wasn't fully focused or didn't fully 'lock in' yet. For the parts I watched, i believe it was more of a bad rhythm rather than pausing between attacks but it makes sense, i don't fully lock in as well until the 40~ mins mark cause its still somewhat fresh. I know I should try to use demo more but the character lock kinda scares me, and dying in 12 man runs is a bigger deal than 15-18 man so i'm trying to take as little risks as possible. thank you for your input, highly appreciated
Barrage + Ds + Demo is kinda trying to make to make the best of a bad situation rather than a real combo. I know how you feel as I was overwhelmed too when I was trying to figure it out. What you want to do is to start looking at the boss animations and ask yourself if it would be safe to demo now or if you would put yourself at risk of getting hit by bird/rock/laser, if the answer is no you play it safe and then start over. This really only comes with experience but eventually you won’t even need to think about it when running. Next run pick a boss animation or two and try it out! Phase 1 and 2 is the best place to do it since there’s a delay between every action that vl does. It’s only laser in phase 3 that can follow up on other animations.
Had a run today where I tried to do more barrage demo and tried reading the animations better and while it wasn't perfect it was better, I'd say The issue is I lack experience on my bucc, barely playing it once a week (cuz I pref my shad bish dk in VLs over my bucc), so getting used to it will just take some time ig.. Will try to follow what you said. Thanks for your reply, highly appreciated!
