Kill Stealing: Unforgivable or Nostalgic?

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    You mean everyone having a bishop or an arch mage? So much diversity. Ksing being allowed would just make the already popular classes even more popular. Ksing between two level 70s I can see the diversity but more likely than not people are just going to end up bringing their 4th job mages and then there is absolutely no point in the ks war anymore.

    Ksing is incredibly frustrating. I want to play this game in piece without getting harassed every two seconds just because I happened upon an empty and popular training map.

    Who's to stop people from seeking out those they have grudges against and making their game play unfavorable because ksing is allowed?

    Like Daniel said, if you want to ks because of the nostalgia go create a ks war amongst you and your friends. No one is stopping you. Don't bring innocent people into it.
     
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    I'm sorry but I don't understand how KSING isn't when you're on the other side of the map killing mobs (if you don't have permission to share the map). Also it doesn't matter if you kill it at the last second. If you do more damage, you'll get more exp and the drops. I think you're misinterpreting what ksing really is.
     
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    I meant diversity in the training, not in which classes are played. If you play a non ksing class like a warrior, you wouldn't even bother going to skeles or ghost ship or whatever cause you'd get ksed anyway. That'd then actually make you try out different training spots until you can go to ror/oblivion.
     
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    But, as you said, you'd only force the classes which can't win a ks battle to do so. What's keeping the archmages and bishops from finding some other, be it less optimal, trainingspots once all skelemaps are taken?
     
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    Oh, I think I got too used to other games.
    But thx for telling me.
    I just don't have any trouble grinding with other people in the map with me, we just make a party and try to grind.
    Sometimes in the party, we split the map in half (left and right) so we can grind at left/right (cuz mostly the party is two people).
     
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    Yeah if you both agree to share the map, then there's nothing wrong with that. But it's when the other person is not in your party and you're trying to use the map while this person comes in and starts killing things without your permission, then it becomes kill stealing.
     
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    Killstealing is bad mmkay?
     
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    Jimmy! you just stole me kill? that's called Kill 'n stealin! people go to hell for that!
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    Should hacking be allowed too? So long as it is done in Orbis or Florina Beach; that's nostalgic, isn't it?
     
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    As you said, KSing will become a matter if MR keeps growing. Should we then just tell people to log out because there is no place and you'll get banned for attacking monsters? No.
    However, right now, with enough channels and alternatives of training, KSing shouldn't happen.
     
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    So a few people have said that ksing will promote people to train at different maps if your class isn't good at ksing. (I understand what you're saying and I'm not trying to attack you, I'm just using this as an example) Maybe those people we're telling to log out so they don't ks should train at OTHER PLACES. If the server continues to grow and more channels aren't added then the no ksing rule will also promote training in maps that aren't popular. There are so many other places you can train at without attacking someone else's monsters. Just because you have the power to bully someone out of their map so YOU don't have to train at bad places and THEY do doesn't mean you should. That person got there first and the map is theirs. Wait patiently for an empty map or go somewhere else. Why is this so hard?
     
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    This was stated before. Because there was such a higher population on gms compared to royals, it was not on a higher priority level of policing. There would be so many cases of ksing that gm's couldn't possibly do anything about it. Maple Royals has their own rules. It's not the same as GMS.
     
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    Yup yup!
     
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    Can we just that it's unforgivably nostalgic
     
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    Lol please just take one sentence in my argument and take it out of context. My whole argument was giving my opinion and reasoning. You taking that one sentence out is completely missing the whole point of my argument.

    Also telling me to get out? Like you said, this is a thread for opinions. I'm simply giving my opinion.

    EDIT: Your post has nothing to do with the purpose of this thread. aka irrelevant
     
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    I personally find v83 nostalgic, I even consider it to be "Old-School GMS". Nostalgia is purely a personal feeling.

    I personally find ksing nostalgic. But at the same time it's incredibly annoying. If Royals grows even further than it already has, then I think the ksing rules should be looked at. But for now, I think the ~mapowner command is the thing the staff should be looking at.
     
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    Essentially, it isn't all bad but at the end of the day no one wants to be KSed and it only benefits one side of the situation so it shouldn't be part of the game if it can be avoided. That being said I had someone come up to me in game yesterday and attempt to take the map I had been on for a couple of hours. The player attempted to KS me, spam me party invites, etc, etc. I asked them to leave and offered a suggestion for a map that would likely be open and would work for them. They said thanks and went on their way. No one was angry at this, no one had to call their friends, no one had to call a GM, and both players at the end of the day were able to train and do what they needed to do. I feel like this is the best way to handle KSing / attempted KSing.
     
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