Duo client movement mimic bug

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  1. Zynzer
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    I decided to just make a new thread since the other thread is pretty much about something else & it would be confusing to talk about multiple topics at once.

    Basically me talking about the bug. Second client is opened with the software called Sandboxie.

    Its kinda rushed & I didnt have any text to support me which I apologize for but I had to get a skele map asap. If you have any question please reply & I will answer once the xp event has ended for a more informative answer if needed, otherwise ill probaly just do a fast response which might not be so detailed.

    So if a staff member could answer this question : Is this bannable or not?
     
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    I wouldn't think so, just go through a portal and back or jump on a rope or something. I remember this happening with the GM client too sometimes.
     
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    Im not sure what you meant by going through a portal, but since I use all 4 arrow keys it wont help being on a rope either. I usually afk at fm on my 2nd client & people see me walking around left to right for hours without communicating, which might make people think that im doing suspicious activity or something.
     
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    How did you trigger this "bug"? o.o
     
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    Have two clients up, both in windowed mode. Make your main client into fullscreen then back to windowed using ALT + SHIFT. After that your second client will start mimicing the main clients movements.
     
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    use ur mouse click on the sandbox window and click on ur original window, that oughta fixed it, it happen to me several times and thats how i get outta it.
     
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    Yeah I know how to fix it, but I usually have my 2nd client overlapped by other programs such as google chrome etc. I usually grind for a long period of time so its a big chance that I forget to fix it once since I tend to change from fullscreen to windowed alot.
    offtopic : Ulquiorra #1.
     
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    This isnt a client bug, its a sandbox bug.
     
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    This bug is super annoying. I've killed one of my characters so many times because of it :(
     
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    Yeah it happens but it doesnt answer my question. Since this falls under "other behavior that allows you (or any character you are controlling) to automatically function or effect any action in a game with or without your presence" makes me wonder if its actually a bannable offense.
     
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    I really don't see how it falls under that as you're not automatically functioning, you're hitting the arrow keys to function. It just so happens that a sandbox bug makes both characters move. You're there able to answer a GM, you're not using any program, and you're not automatically functioning.
     
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    I usually have my second client overlapped by other programs unless if im doing anything that needs attention on it. So it would be very unlikely for me to respond to a gm unless if I had it up visible.

    After the situation that happened with Sh0ok just getting banned for spamming a skill while not responding, I figured that moving while not responding would get the same punishment. I'd rather ask about this & check where the line cross on what is and isnt bannable since if it was, and I got caught, 7days ban and have a strike under that rule. Another strike and im permanently banned.
     
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    In this case, I would say that as long as you can answer a GM on either character within the necessary time period, you will not be banned.
     
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    I had an Idea before if my HS mule is finished. If i use Joytokey on VMware and control the HS button with a joypad to not change windows. Will this be a problem? (aslong GM doesnt whisper the Mule directly i can answer if i see with main :p)
     
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    As you just said though, "aslong GM doesnt whisper the Mule directly i can answer if i see with main" If a GM whispers you on that Mule directly and you don't respond, you will be banned for botting, whether you are there or not.
     
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    Are GMs able to see which characters are online from ones IP/Mac adress? Otherwise how would the GM know who to contact?
     
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    Both characters need to be actively in use with your presence. I think John made it pretty clear in his last post.
     
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    Didnt seem like it was clear at all (for me) since he said I could reply on either character. Which made me think that if I didnt reply on the bugged client the GM would try to contact me on the active client.

    Just answer this : IF my second client is replicating my movements & a GM tries to talk with me without responding, will I be punished for breaking rule nr 23? Yes/No.
     
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    I would think so, yes.
     
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    Well then, hopefully there could be an exception regarding this bug.

    Heres a few reason why I dont think this should be a bannable offense.

    Reason 1. Lets say that youre one of those that changes screen size instead of alt tabbing, or just like to switch between them in general. If you maybe do it 4-5 times you always need to check if your second client isnt affected by this glitch. Yeah I agree its easy to just fix it directly, but those who plays for hours every day then sooner or later it will happen that you forget and you have the chance of getting caught & punished by a gm. Punished because you forget to fix your bugged client every single time you change screen sizes. Silly right? And the bug doesnt even you at all.

    Reason 2. The bug also applies a strike under rule nr23, and the rule nr 23 is strict enough as it is. Break it twice and youre permanently banned from MapleRoyals. Now people might be thinking, if you already had one strike then you should obviously be extremly careful to not get your second.
    Well, first thing you still get a strike when you party with a botter OR if you sleep and somehow manage to press down a button which triggers a skill/movement (referring to Sh0oks situation).
    And if you later get banned for doing this then you got yourself 2 strikes which you didnt even know that happened because the lack of attention. It even happened to me once that I partied with a botter, NONE in my party realized that he was botting after about 40-60mins when I decided to check why he never went up to get holy symbol. Thankfully I managed to spot him before a GM did, otherwise we all would of been punished.

    Reason 3. This bug works with other versions of maplestory. (Will provide an example if needed, however the gif also shows the name of the private server.)
    I tried it out on another maplestory private server with v.83, to check if this bug happened and it got the same result as in mapleroyals which has v.62. So why do you have a chance of getting permanently banned on something that isnt possible to fix? It has happened to me alot of times before, and it will happen hundreds of time again, and most of the time I dont even notice it & therefor unable to fix it. Since it will happen alot more I will probaly be banned soon due to lacking the attention to see if im doing the bug.

    Friendly reminder : The bug is ONLY able to replicate the arrow keys, so It cannot use any skills, jumping or even chating, just moving around. Hell, this bug isnt even benefitial at all, its more worse. Since if youre not in a safe map, it will simply just kill itself & make you lose xp/charm.

    I dont really see how this bug is benefitial for one yet able to get the person banned for 7 days or permanent. Why cant it just be an exception from this rule? It wont be causing harm other than confsuing players that see this person walking left right all the time without talking.

    Sorry if theres a few grammar problems here & there but hopefully its understandable & readable.
     

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